I still have high hopes for him this season. But there are things to worry about with his shot.
Rubio being good for this team and our solution at PG revolves around his ability to shoot the 3 with enough accuracy that players actually guard him.
Ricky Rubio will break out this season
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Rubio being good for this team and our solution at PG revolves around his ability to shoot the 3 with enough accuracy that players actually guard him.
Yes, I agree. My hope that last year was different than other years has been crushed by fact. I did not look into his prior years to know this.
I won't dump out the kool aid, but my jazz summer has taken a down turn. There are concerns, it's not all roses.
I just have to remember we have "Where in the world is Carmen Spida Mitchell" to keep us entertained.
I have high hopes for Rubio this year. I think he'll settle a little closer to the second half of the season and shoot 37-38 % from 3.
A lot of people talk about how it doesn't work to have Favors and Gobert in the game at the same time. Thats wrong. It doesn't work to have Favors and Gobert in the game at the same time when your PG shoots less than 30 % from 3, but when he is shooting well like the second half, then it wasn't a problem.
Rubio will probably stick at around 6 assists a game, because of the Jazz system, and DM having the ball in his hands a lot, but he plays great defense, runs the offense as well as could be desired (when he is able to hit his shots) and is a great team guy. He is one of my favorite guys to watch play because of his effort, and he is pretty tough as much as he gets beat up. His finishing at the rim improved a little bit last year. I hope it continues to improve.
A lot of people talk about how it doesn't work to have Favors and Gobert in the game at the same time. Thats wrong. It doesn't work to have Favors and Gobert in the game at the same time when your PG shoots less than 30 % from 3, but when he is shooting well like the second half, then it wasn't a problem.
Rubio will probably stick at around 6 assists a game, because of the Jazz system, and DM having the ball in his hands a lot, but he plays great defense, runs the offense as well as could be desired (when he is able to hit his shots) and is a great team guy. He is one of my favorite guys to watch play because of his effort, and he is pretty tough as much as he gets beat up. His finishing at the rim improved a little bit last year. I hope it continues to improve.
JimLes
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You gotta feel bad about the first 7 years of Ricky's career. The Wolves were incompetent and then some.
Check this out. These are the players Minny drafted the year they drafted Ricky and the four years after that.
Remember that they had already gotten Love the year before. And yes, I know that Ricky stayed in Europe for 2 years. But these stooges had 9(nine!!!) first round picks over 3 years. They had picks number 2, 4, 5, and 6. They added absolutely nothing to what was a decent core duo in Ricky and Kevin Love. Even the players who became decent like Ellington(good 6th man) or Roberson(very good defender) were traded. Meanwhile, they took Derrick Williams and Wesley Johnson at 2 and 4. They took Burke at 9 and then traded him for Shabazz. I don't know who's the bigger pile of garbage between the two.
They also took two other PGs the year they drafted Rubio. They traded Lawson of the Babbitt pick, but what the **** are you doing drafting PGs when you just took a massively hyped teenager at number 5? Sure, he stayed in Europe for 2 years, but if you've got your PG of the future, why not draft some other needs at 6 and 18? I mean, they ended up starting a 30-year old Ridnour within a year, anyway. You could've done that and not wasted two first round picks. And not to make this about who they could've taken because hindsight is 20-20, but if you really wanted another PG that badly, Steph Curry, Jeff Teague and even Brandon Jennings were available at 6. They took Wesley Johnson ahead of Boogie, Hayward and George. They took Derrick Williams over everyone. Oh, and do you know why the Wolves had no first round pick in 2012? They traded it for Marko Jarić and Lionel Chalmers. Would've been 10th.
So it's not necessarily that Ricky didn't live up to the hype in Minneapolis. It's that he was never given a chance. That organization **** the bed in more ways than you can count in the early 2010s.
Check this out. These are the players Minny drafted the year they drafted Ricky and the four years after that.
Remember that they had already gotten Love the year before. And yes, I know that Ricky stayed in Europe for 2 years. But these stooges had 9(nine!!!) first round picks over 3 years. They had picks number 2, 4, 5, and 6. They added absolutely nothing to what was a decent core duo in Ricky and Kevin Love. Even the players who became decent like Ellington(good 6th man) or Roberson(very good defender) were traded. Meanwhile, they took Derrick Williams and Wesley Johnson at 2 and 4. They took Burke at 9 and then traded him for Shabazz. I don't know who's the bigger pile of garbage between the two.
They also took two other PGs the year they drafted Rubio. They traded Lawson of the Babbitt pick, but what the **** are you doing drafting PGs when you just took a massively hyped teenager at number 5? Sure, he stayed in Europe for 2 years, but if you've got your PG of the future, why not draft some other needs at 6 and 18? I mean, they ended up starting a 30-year old Ridnour within a year, anyway. You could've done that and not wasted two first round picks. And not to make this about who they could've taken because hindsight is 20-20, but if you really wanted another PG that badly, Steph Curry, Jeff Teague and even Brandon Jennings were available at 6. They took Wesley Johnson ahead of Boogie, Hayward and George. They took Derrick Williams over everyone. Oh, and do you know why the Wolves had no first round pick in 2012? They traded it for Marko Jarić and Lionel Chalmers. Would've been 10th.
So it's not necessarily that Ricky didn't live up to the hype in Minneapolis. It's that he was never given a chance. That organization **** the bed in more ways than you can count in the early 2010s.
Kyoto
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Not many people are mentioning his defense. Honestly I think he is our best starting defensive point guard since we had John Stockton. His shooting could be better, but really I think that's the only flaw in his game. I love me some Ricky Rubio
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I'm from Europe so Rubio's adventure in Utah is particularly interesting to me.
When he was 15 years old he already was kicking *** so we all thought he was the next big thing.
No wonder his NBA journey has been underwhelming. There might be reasons behind that. First of all he has a different mind than most players. He is tough but will still need the right environment to settle in and flourish. That was not Minnesota, the Wolves failed to develop him. He was unlucky to play for a number of coaches with poor development skills. Guess what? Utah is the place and Quin Snyder is the coach he always needed. Coach Q is harsh but fair. Intense but empathetic.
Rubio has improved significantly last season. Dude showed he can shoot, man. More importantly he has regained his confidence.
He'll break out this season and you'll all be witnesses. I don't mean raw stats, no he won't post 25 ppg, which is too hard in UTA's system anyway but he and DM will lead the Jazz to wins... a lot of wins.. Most since 97-98.
That means at least 56 wins for the season. I’m down with that.
