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[Archie Moses]

Yeah, as a very white guy, I'm not about to get my panties in a bunch over a member of a marginalized community taking shots at whitey, especially when those shots are obvious jokes. Punching up vs punching down is a thing.

I have a meme I wish I could post on here, but I won't.

If you're not upset by this, the more power to you, dude. As a white dude myself, I'm not going to lose sleep over her tweets. That said, I'm more bothered by the media and people like you who brush it off as if it's nothing. It's a leftist double standard - cognitive dissonance. The right has pissed me off just as much in this thread, but at least my logic is consistent.

It's funny that punching up vs punching down has been brought up a few times because you're implying she's powerless because she's Asian. She grew up with a silver spoon in her mouth. She graduated with a master's from an Ivy League school - Harvard. She was listed as one of Forbe's 30 under 30. She gets to keep her job after posting offensive and racists tweets even though her employer literally just fired a white, woman colleague of hers in February for the pretty much the same thing. Not only did they not fire her like Quinn, they publically defended her and said she was only trolling the trolls.

Maybe I don't get the punch up vs punching down thing but from what it says it is online, that's more than a stretch to say.

 

[Siro]

He’s a conservative who had a crisis of faith and became a big Obama supporter in 2008. He was never an editor for the National Review. As far as I know Sullivan has never opposed gay marriage, in fact, he wrote a book supporting it decades ago and almost 30 years ago wrote an essay in The New Republic (which he did edit for a few years) that helped start the gay marriage movement.

https://www.businessinsider.com/rea...t-the-gay-marriage-movement-in-america-2015-6

My bad. Remembered it wrong.

 

[One Brow]

So if a black American works as a shift manager, leading a diverse set of employees, is prejudiced against white people, is that racism?

The short answer is no.

If you like, I could do a 500-word essay on from my limited knowledge of sociological reasons, or a 500-word essay from my personal experience in the matter, explaining the answer, but only if you really want to read it.

 

[One Brow]

Why?

He’s not worth talking to on the subject. Nothing, and nobody will change his mind. I’m sure One Brow has good intentions, but it’s not a subject worth talking about with him.

I've had my mind changed on various aspects of the subject in a few different ways over the past 15 years. If you could bring something substantive, you could change my mind. However, so far all you have is cultural assumptions.

 

[One Brow]

I still don't get how people can defend her tweets. Lol

It's weird, really.

Vox has one take on Jeong's hiring. YMMV.

White people are such drama queens.

 

[One Brow]

As a white dude myself, I'm not going to lose sleep over her tweets.

That's exactly the point. I wish I could be sure you understood why this statement is at the heart of the matter.

Maybe I don't get the punch up vs punching down thing but from what it says it is online, that's more than a stretch to say.

Maybe do some research on the concept?

 

[Archie Moses]

Vox has one take on Jeong's hiring. YMMV.

White people are such drama queens.

I don't read anything by Vox.

If people want to say that pure racism, hatred, and dumb tweets are the fault of an entire race being drama queens then I think it says more about that person than the group.

What ever happened to treating people as individuals and judged by their actions?

 

[Siro]

The short answer is no.

If you like, I could do a 500-word essay on from my limited knowledge of sociological reasons, or a 500-word essay from my personal experience in the matter, explaining the answer, but only if you really want to read it.

If you type it, I'll read it. But no pressure.

 

[Archie Moses]

That's exactly the point. I wish I could be sure you understood why this statement is at the heart of the matter.



Maybe do some research on the concept?

So you think because of the color of my skin my opinion doesn't matter or I haven't done research on the issues at hand?

That's really ****ing simple minded.

Yeah, not going to engage in further dialogue with someone like you.

 

[One Brow]

I don't read anything by Vox.

Your call.

If people want to say that pure racism, hatred, and dumb tweets are the fault of an entire race being drama queens then I think it says more about that person than the group.

What ever happened to treating people as individuals and judged by their actions?

Since you don't care enough about the topic to be informed, I don't see a need to treat this as anything more than a desire by you to continue to wallow in your ignorance and false assumptions on the issue.

 

[One Brow]

So you think because of the color of my skin my opinion doesn't matter or I haven't done research on the issues at hand?

Nope. I do think your skin color has affected your experiences, and that you haven't done research because you ask questions that anyone who has done some basic research would know the answers to.

Yeah, not going to engage in further dialogue with someone like you.

You have not been engaging in dialogue with me. Dialogue requires that you actually be willing to consider modification of your opinions, and all you seem to be seeking is confirmation of your biases.

 

[Archie Moses]

P

Your call.



Since you don't care enough about the topic to be informed, I don't see a need to treat this as anything more than a desire by you to continue to wallow in your ignorance and false assumptions on the issue.

I've read things that defend her and I think it's utter ********. If I read something I agreed with or was educating, I'd be more willing to accept it.
Please educate me of why what she said in 100s of tweets is alright with you, not racists, and how I'm ignorant.

*grab a popcorn*