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Yep. Upside drives draft stock.

Ya know, I hope we draft knight just in spite of you and dip ****. We have been down this road on another thread. Marshall is no knight and either are any other pg next year. You sound really idiotic when go on on about how next years PGs are just as good and just completely off when you say Marshall is just as good. SO so dumb.
 
My opinion. Knight is very different than most. He will see his role as employee for the NBA team that chooses him. He will appreciate each paycheck and make sure he earns more than he receives, or die in the attempt.

Now, if it were me selecting, I'd probably take him around 7 or 8. I believe I actually have more concerns about him than most ... but his character/work ethic is a 10+.

who the hell do you take in front of him!?! As much as you fancy yourself as a super scout this comment convinces me that you are no more knowledgeable than bentley or dipship.
 
When you say most upside do you mean between him, Kemba, and Jimmer? Or the most upside at 3 among Kanter, Irving, and Williams? Knight's a safe pick, but nothing screams to me that he will be all that better than Kemba or Jimmer and we could find someone like him next year. There's 3 guys at the top IMO and then a drop. If we don't take any of the 3 guys in that upper tier I'll be pissed.

I know you guys keep saying we can find someone like him next year, but we won't have a #3 pick next year. There will be pg's as good or better than Knight next year, but we won't be in position to draft them. The Jazz have to take BPA and stay at #3 because they may not have a shot at a player of this caliber again for a long time.
 
who the hell do you take in front of him!?! As much as you fancy yourself as a super scout this comment convinces me that you are no more knowledgeable than bentley or dipship.

I'm sure I'm not any more knowledgable, never said I was. I have watched Brandon more than everyone on this board combined (half his last two years of HS games and all of his games at UK). I made observations from what I've seen over three years, that's it. It's very strange that people who have seen the kids play the most generate the least amount of credibility. I LOVE Knight ... he's one of my top 5 favorite players ALL TIME for UK (I'm 39 and watched since I was two years old).

I have NEVER once claimed to have any superior knowledge, but I do have insight (up real close) to both Knight and Kanter. I provide my thoughts, that's it. Sheesh, it's hard to know what to say and not say.
 
I know you guys keep saying we can find someone like him next year, but we won't have a #3 pick next year. There will be pg's as good or better than Knight next year, but we won't be in position to draft them. The Jazz have to take BPA and stay at #3 because they may not have a shot at a player of this caliber again for a long time.

There's no one in 2012 or 2013 that is CURRENTLY trending/projecting to be better/go higher than Knight.
 
I'm sure I'm not any more knowledgable, never said I was. I have watched Brandon more than everyone on this board combined (half his last two years of HS games and all of his games at UK). I made observations from what I've seen over three years, that's it. It's very strange that people who have seen the kids play the most generate the least amount of credibility. I LOVE Knight ... he's one of my top 5 favorite players ALL TIME for UK (I'm 39 and watched since I was two years old).

I have NEVER once claimed to have any superior knowledge, but I do have insight (up real close) to both Knight and Kanter. I provide my thoughts, that's it. Sheesh, it's hard to know what to say and not say.

you can start by naming the 6-7 players better players in this draft.
 
is it impossible we pick him as a second pick making a trade with Toronto?
we can give 12th pick, gsw pick and harris
 
I never said there were that many 'better' than Knight. I was referring to drafting with a risk/reward factor.

And there was no science to the number, I was just saying Knight has some things to work on that would concern me around 3. Perhaps the most of which would be his avoidance of contact. I always wanted him to attack the rim more (he has the ability and strength) but he would dodge the defender and end up shooting a 12 footer when he could have shot a 3 footer and drawn a foul. That happened with such frequency that it concerned me. Will he overcome it? I believe so. All I'm saying is he has some holes to his game that I feel most are underestimating. I love the kid, know he'll be great ... I'm just not sure I'd take him at 3, that's all.
 
is it impossible we pick him as a second pick making a trade with Toronto?
we can give 12th pick, gsw pick and harris

He's not worth the GS pick, imo. Also, I wouldn't give up our veteran PG that could help mentor Knight and give him time to mature.
 
He's not worth the GS pick, imo. Also, I wouldn't give up our veteran PG that could help mentor Knight and give him time to mature.

i dont think gs pick will necessarily be very valuable. Next yrs draft is pretty strong, but we r nt sure, if GSW will be at the bottom 8 or not. If we r rebuilding the team, i think we can trade Harris to get such a promising young player.
Personally i would prefr to get two young quality players instead of one young and keeping a veteran just for mentoring. Harris isnt Kidd or Nash to help him improve a lot
 
He's not worth the GS pick, imo. Also, I wouldn't give up our veteran PG that could help mentor Knight and give him time to mature.

I actually would do this trade: Toronto #5 pick (Knight) for #12 pick, Harris and GS pick

Then

Sign Earl Watson for 2-3 seasons to start for 3/4 of next season and ease Knight in slowly. That way Knight would have someone there to mentor him. Earl played well enough last season IMO.

You then have 2 up and coming players in Kanter & Knight, and you'll also have Jefferson & Watson there to guide them for at least this year as well as next year (if required).

OKC 2.0?

Knight
Hayward
Kanter
Favors

There's scoring there: Knight, Hayward, Kanter. Defense as well: Knight, Favors. That would give us a young core with enough talent I think to rival any teams within 2-3 year's time.
 
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