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White House Discord: Bob Woodward Book, NYT Op-Ed

JazzGal said:
Interesting times to be in the White House, I imagine. Here's the NYT Op-Ed from an anonymous senior White House official:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...ce-inside-the-trump-administration/ar-BBMVtbs
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you mean an anonymous fake official in Bob's imagination.

The whole Watergate thing, imo, was only run out "with permission" from the Rockefeller managers. Lessee.... back then I was in the Philippines during that election, talking to folks who proved credible that Philippine Pres. Ferdinand Marcos had been financed by the Rockefellers to win his first election. He got pretty big for his britches, pretty fast..... and started snarling and biting the hand that fed him. The media there started running up scandal after scandal, and Marcos declared Martial Law. At that time I was actually in a commie-controlled area, the Huks in central Luzon. They were pretty nice folks, and took me home for supper to explain Philippine history to me, and how American business Bigs had abused their country. These were not hayseed rural hicks, but college-educated and brilliant young folks whose parents WERE the corporate Bigs of the Philippines. University of the Philippines is the premier educational institution there, like Harvard.

When I got here, it was deja vu all over again. Nixon got too big for his britches, too.

But he wouldn't have been taken down if he had done what he was told. The whole problem with Trump is he is really his own damn man.

I might have absorbed some perspective from being a firstline bookkeeper hired to gather receipts and post them in ledgers in a huge sprawling mansion where, allegedly, "Deep Throat" called home. ah, what a career, being a fly on the wall.

At any rate, Woodward and Bernstein are over-rated hacks now. Hillary's crew has gotten out their "Active Measures" now, too. More twisted bias run out in desperation trying to stop the steady progress of unraveling the much more significant scandals coming from Obama's operations in weaponizing the federal agencies, using taxpayer assets to destroy representative democracy from the root up. More than 1000 times the private little burglar crew.....
 
Whoever the author is, he will now be the anti-QAnon in the alternate universe inhabited by Trump cultists. His/her name will come out. They have to know that, so their motive has to have more then a little self-service attached to it.

Trump must really be off the rails tonight, with Deep State paranoia already a part of his own alternative reality narrative, now colliding with the inhabitants of Woodward's book and an anonymous Deep State Throat. The tweets should really be off the deep end.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
I do think though that they are providing enough rope to hang Trump. Let's hope they are able to block Kavanaugh -- the guy's legal logic is flawed. If he had been on the court in 1954, we'd still have segregation based on his description today of how he uses precedent to make his decisions
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There’s no way Kavanaugh isn’t confirmed. That’s the only unifying Force in the gop right now. They’re protecting trump (and each other) so they can promote their agenda; deregulation, tax cuts, and conservative justices. Otherwise, there’s literally no point in tolerating Trump.

In order to block Kavanaugh you need every single democrat to vote no and at least two republicans to join them.

There’s very little chance of a United democratic caucus. Many are running this year in vulnerable red states. So I’d be surprised if you got all democrats to vote no. Then you compound that with a cult like loyalty for Trump. And Kavanaugh is in.

Any republican who votes “no” on Kavanaugh will be committing political suicide. While they might sleep better at night, that type of integrity has yet to be seen.
 
The Thriller said:
The thing that pisses me off about the NYTimes oped and the people quoted in the Woodward book is that they don’t do what’s necessary to end this atrocity. They’re in positions of power to invoke the 25th amendment. They could end his presidency. Yet, they continue to placate to him to and downplay his dangerous tendencies in order to achieve their own petty and pathetic goals (more military spending, tax cuts, deregulation, etc).

Is promoting your own personal agenda really worth destroying our democracy? So while I get what the oped is trying to do I don’t have any sympathy for them. **** you. You know he’s a piece of ****. End his presidency. No amount of tax cuts or deregulation is worth this.
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This is not about their agenda. If Trump goes Pence becomes President. Agenda is largely the same. I think the Republican establishment is terrified of the backlash that would come from Trump's base if they were complicit in his ouster.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
I do think though that they are providing enough rope to hang Trump. Let's hope they are able to block Kavanaugh -- the guy's legal logic is flawed. If he had been on the court in 1954, we'd still have segregation based on his description today of how he uses precedent to make his decisions
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Hopefully you’re right, this is enough evidence to hang Trump.
 
Red said:
@babe, although it's seems likely Woodward sourced this anonymous individual, you're conflating Woodward's book with the Op-Ed piece in the Times.
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My money on a key source is H R McMasters. While still a LtCol in the U S Army he wrote the book, "Dereliction of Duty" about the failure of leadership in the Johnson administration. Seems like he would be sensitive to incompetence in the WH

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babe said:
you mean an anonymous fake official in Bob's imagination.

The whole Watergate thing, imo, was only run out "with permission" from the Rockefeller managers. Lessee.... back then I was in the Philippines during that election, talking to folks who proved credible that Philippine Pres. Ferdinand Marcos had been financed by the Rockefellers to win his first election. He got pretty big for his britches, pretty fast..... and started snarling and biting the hand that fed him. The media there started running up scandal after scandal, and Marcos declared Martial Law. At that time I was actually in a commie-controlled area, the Huks in central Luzon. They were pretty nice folks, and took me home for supper to explain Philippine history to me, and how American business Bigs had abused their country. These were not hayseed rural hicks, but college-educated and brilliant young folks whose parents WERE the corporate Bigs of the Philippines. University of the Philippines is the premier educational institution there, like Harvard.

When I got here, it was deja vu all over again. Nixon got too big for his britches, too.

But he wouldn't have been taken down if he had done what he was told. The whole problem with Trump is he is really his own damn man.

I might have absorbed some perspective from being a firstline bookkeeper hired to gather receipts and post them in ledgers in a huge sprawling mansion where, allegedly, "Deep Throat" called home. ah, what a career, being a fly on the wall.

At any rate, Woodward and Bernstein are over-rated hacks now. Hillary's crew has gotten out their "Active Measures" now, too. More twisted bias run out in desperation trying to stop the steady progress of unraveling the much more significant scandals coming from Obama's operations in weaponizing the federal agencies, using taxpayer assets to destroy representative democracy from the root up. More than 1000 times the private little burglar crew.....
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Whaaa?

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Bulletproof said:
This is not about their agenda. If Trump goes Pence becomes President. Agenda is largely the same. I think the Republican establishment is terrified of the backlash that would come from Trump's base if they were complicit in his ouster.
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You’re right. The cabinet members have an agenda.

Paul Ryan and mitch McConnell are afraid of voters gutting them in the primaries.

Rich elitists like the Kochs, Adelsons, and DeVoses want the tax cuts and deregulation.

I do think it’ll be interesting to see what Mueller finds in regards to dirty Russian money. There’s strong evidence from what I’ve seen that Russia has figured out a way to launder dirty money into republican coffers through the NRA.
 
Zombie said:
What a bunch of ****ing cowards. It's pretty cool that the office of the presidency has fallen to what amounts to a coup by Trump's advisors/cabinet.

Whoever wrote that article is more interested in holding onto their own power within the presidency than acting as some kind of resistance.

If they truly belive Trump is unfit for office, and apparently they do, there's a solution called the 25th amendment.
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"Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over."

He/she says "we" enough times in the op-ed to make me wonder if they're having weekly meetings to coordinate the administration of government in the executive branch. In the Situation Room, lol. Meanwhile Republicans in Congress are all deer in the headlights, and Trump's base is behind the wheel, not about to turn the lights off. Sounds like it's time to just have that Constitutional crisis, and get it over with.
 
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