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JustTheTip said:
Feinstein keeps on saying that there are things we don’t know, but I don’t understand why she doesn’t tell us what those things are?

If she has other knowledge, proof, or facts, she should be telling the other Senators so that we aren’t wasting time or money here.
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You don't think it's pretty clear the Republicans saw a violent crime coming? "Why doesn't X tell us" swings both ways. The timing on this is just as suspect as withholding documents illustrating perjury.
 
If we’re going to say that people shouldn’t qualify because of doing awful things as young people, and showing poor judgment (which I agree with btw)...then one would think Beto O’Rourke would get a lot more flak for getting a DUI while hitting another vehicle and attempting to flee the accident.

Good thing he was a rich white kid who had a judge of a Dad who could get him out of things.

Ironically, he sounds like the stereotypical caricature of a republican by the Democrats these days.
 
JustTheTip said:
If we’re going to say that people shouldn’t qualify because of doing awful things as young people, and showing poor judgment (which I agree with btw)...then one would think Beto O’Rourke would get a lot more flak for getting a DUI while hitting another vehicle and attempting to flee the accident.

Good thing he was a rich white kid who had a judge of a Dad who could get him out of things.

Ironically, he sounds like the stereotypical caricature of a republican by the Democrats these days.
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I think people owning up to their behavior and showing remorse goes a long way. Not that drunk driving isn't serious, but it's in a different ballpark than attempted rape in terms of youthful indiscretion.
 
Zombie said:
I think people owning up to their behavior and showing remorse goes a long way. Not that drunk driving isn't serious, but it's in a different ballpark than attempted rape in terms of youthful indiscretion.
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Except one actually happened and the other, so far, has no evidence.
 
Zombie said:
I think people owning up to their behavior and showing remorse goes a long way. Not that drunk driving isn't serious, but it's in a different ballpark than attempted rape in terms of youthful indiscretion.
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Except he never mentioned hitting a car and fleeing until people dig...so how much did he own up?

And if we’re being honest, him driving drunk at that age doesn’t bother me. That’s a common youthful mistake. It’s that whole hitting somebody and trying to run away. That is very different than just driving drunk. But I do agree, people should get the opportunity to change. And attempted rape is much more serious.



I’m curious to what you want to come out if this. I think all of us hope that justice is served, that the truth is revealed. But it’s a 30 year old case, and we don’t seem to have any proof. Should we not nominate him because he was accused? Because it seems like it’s going to end with just an accusation...so I’m curious, outside of justice (because that’s the obvious and easy answer), what do you want to see here?
 
JustTheTip said:
Except he never mentioned hitting a car and fleeing until people dig...so how much did he own up?

And if we’re being honest, him driving drunk at that age doesn’t bother me. That’s a common youthful mistake. It’s that whole hitting somebody and trying to run away. That is very different than just driving drunk. But I do agree, people should get the opportunity to change. And attempted rape is much more serious.



I’m curious to what you want to come out if this. I think all of us hope that justice is served, that the truth is revealed. But it’s a 30 year old case, and we don’t seem to have any proof. Should we not nominate him because he was accused? Because it seems like it’s going to end with just an accusation...so I’m curious, outside of justice (because that’s the obvious and easy answer), what do you want to see here?
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What I want to see hasn't changed since these allegations came out, his nomination should be withdrawn or he should be voted down. There are plenty of other concerning things about Kavenaugh that make me think he is neither qualified or deserving of a lifetime appointment to the supreme court.
 
Zombie said:
What I want to see hasn't changed since these allegations came out, his nomination should be withdrawn or he should be voted down. There are plenty of other concerning things about Kavenaugh that make me think he is neither qualified or deserving of a lifetime appointment to the supreme court.
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So he should be disqualified because of an accusation for which we have no proof of yet?

That seems like a very bad idea for the future. Kinda like approving the nuclear option and only needing 51 votes.
 
Zombie said:
What I want to see hasn't changed since these allegations came out, his nomination should be withdrawn or he should be voted down. There are plenty of other concerning things about Kavenaugh that make me think he is neither qualified or deserving of a lifetime appointment to the supreme court.
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And they won’t happen either. Well, a narrow loss might happen but that’s iffy. The Rs don’t care about this allegation. I bet many of them think it’s a lie.

Smh
 
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