Supreme Court Justice Kennedy to Retire

[RandyForRubio]

Actually, the FBI is responsible for background checks of Supreme Court nominees.

Right you are! The FBI's role during background investigations is to evaluate whether the nominee could pose a national security risk and then provide that information.

 

[RandyForRubio]

The burden of proof shouldn’t change based on what is at stake.

 

[Zombie]

Right you are! The FBI's role during background investigations is to evaluate whether the nominee could pose a national security risk and then provide that information.

Evidence of sexual assualt that could plausibly be used as blackmail seems to fit the bill.

 

[Zombie]

The burden of proof shouldn’t change based on what is at stake.

Yeah, it should. The standard we use for crimes is guilty beyond reasonable doubt because individual liberty is at stake. This guy is simply up for a promotion. C'mon.

Edited to add, as I was typing this Trump said himself there shouldn't be any doubt. I know his word isn't often worth much, but I'm happy to follow that standard.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Evidence of sexual assualt that could plausibly be used as blackmail seems to fit the bill.

1) That’s a pretty big stretch.

2) He’s already been accused. That essentially takes the blackmail away. Usually the blackmail comes before the media attention buddy. It’s not like the Russians have a videotape of the alleged rape.

 

[Zombie]

1) That’s a pretty big stretch.

2) He’s already been accused. That essentially takes the blackmail away. Usually the blackmail comes before the media attention buddy. It’s not like the Russians have a videotape of the alleged rape.

It's certainly within the realm of possibility that if indeed he did attempt to rape Ford, it wasn't an isolated incident. I think it makes sense for federal investigators to take another look.

 

[RandyForRubio]

It's certainly within the realm of possibility that if indeed he did attempt to rape Ford, it wasn't an isolated incident. I think it makes sense for federal investigators to take another look.

It is within the realm of possibility!

Much like Nassar, Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc.

One would certainly think that with the amount of media attention, with the stakes at hand, that somebody would’ve come forward by now. Obviously a very hard thing to do, but as recent history has shown us, something that has happened in recent allegations against high profile people.

Some could argue that the lack of other women coming forward is some type of evidence. I don’t think I would argue that, but some people could.


Anyways, Feinstein didn’t ask the FBI to look for other cases. The FBI was asked to look into a specific case. Your argument doesn’t hold up.

 

[Zombie]

It is within the realm of possibility!

Much like Nassar, Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc.

One would certainly think that with the amount of media attention, with the stakes at hand, that somebody would’ve come forward by now. Obviously a very hard thing to do, but as recent history has shown us, something that has happened in recent allegations against high profile people.

Some could argue that the lack of other women coming forward is some type of evidence. I don’t think I would argue that, but some people could.


Anyways, Feinstein didn’t ask the FBI to look for other cases. The FBI was asked to look into a specific case. Your argument doesn’t hold up.

I'm not terrible invested in it either way, but it doesn't seem too crazy to have a federal agency investigate claims of a violent crime involving a Supreme Court candidate.

 

[RandyForRubio]

I'm not terrible invested in it either way, but it doesn't seem too crazy to have a federal agency investigate claims of a violent crime involving a Supreme Court candidate.

On the outside, no. But it’s not their job.

 

[Zombie]

On the outside, no. But it’s not their job.

I probably shouldn't have just trusted you were right when you said the FBI only does background checks as they relate to national security. Turns out that's not the case at all.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pb...nvestigation-behind-supreme-court-nominations

 

[Stars Fan]

You find her claim more credible because she said there was another person in the room, even though that person claims they were never in a room where any such thing happened? I don't see how that helps her case at all.

If this attempted rape happened it's a terrible thing, but memory is not reliable. She can't remember when it happened, she can't remember where it happened, how do we know that she isn't mis-remembering who it happened with? It's unfortunate when justice cannot be served, but this is part of the reason that the statute of limitations exists. There is literally no evidence other than a 30+ year old memory, and anyone who thinks memory (even of important events) is reliable over that length of time is lying to themselves.

That she relates her memory of this traumatic experience as she remembers it, without regard for the potential negative consequences of having an unsupportive witness is compelling to me. If she were making this up, too smear the judge, why add that detail? To me it says that is how she remembers things going down.

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[Joe Bagadonuts]

That she relates her memory of this traumatic experience as she remembers it, without regard for the potential negative consequences of having an unsupportive witness is compelling to me. If she were making this up, too smear the judge, why add that detail? To me it says that is how she remembers things going down.

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I think you are probably right. That is how she remembers it. That doesn't mean it is how it actually happened. The same can be said for Kavanaugh. I think he is likely being honest about what he remembers, but I'll bet there is a ton about his teenage years which he no longer remembers accurately.