Pace and Favors

[candrew]

I definitely think this increase in pace is going to make it even more difficult to have Favors and Gobert on the floor at the same time. Favors should still be able to be effective playing the 5 when Gobert's out.

This is pretty much my point. Favors will essentially be a back-up Center. Crowder and Thabo will play the bulk of the PF minutes .

Favors usage will probably resemble how he was utilized in the Rockets series.

 

[candrew]

2 games in. These track meets aren’t gonna last to the same degree the whole season Wait till the dust settles

I don't think so - the "freedom of movement" emphasis by the NBA is allowing players to the bring the ball up untouched. Last night I watched The Knicks - Celtics game. The Knicks tried to pick up Terry Rozier in the back court and twice the ref called a foul on the Knick defender. Then The Knicks backed of and it turned into a track meet.

I think this is what most teams want and probably why the change was made in the first place - the ability to push the ball into their offense faster to generate more possessions, more one-on-one opportunities and more open 3's in transition. Virtually every team is taking advantage of it.

 

[LogGrad98]

I think the jazz need to focus on slowing the pace, drive the grinding D. That is what will win games for us. We saw with GS what happens when we try to compete in a track meet. I think it's a strength that we can play at a fast pace, but it shouldn't be our identity. It should be a weapon in the arsenal, not our only bullet.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

I don't think so - the "freedom of movement" emphasis by the NBA is allowing players to the bring the ball up untouched. Last night I watched The Knicks - Celtics game. The Knicks tried to pick up Terry Rozier in the back court and twice the ref called a foul on the Knick defender. Then The Knicks backed of and it turned into a track meet.

I think this is what most teams want and probably why the change was made in the first place - the ability to push the ball into their offense faster to generate more possessions, more one-on-one opportunities and more open 3's in transition. Virtually every team is taking advantage of it.

I'll see the refs continue to call it this way after 2-3 months before i believe it

 

[fishonjazz]

Only nba games i have really watched start to finish so far this year are the two jazz games. They were both really good and entertaining games. So far so good with this faster pace imo.

Im having a blast with the jazz season so far. Whats not to like?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'll see the refs continue to call it this way after 2-3 months before i believe it

Honestly they already aren’t calling it like they said they would... it’s 100% lip service and shouldn’t be taken seriously.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Only nba games i have really watched start to finish so far this year are the two jazz games. They were both really good and entertaining games. So far so good with this faster pace imo.

Im having a blast with the jazz season so far. Whats not to like?

The NBA has been amazing through the first few games. No complaints. But if the Jazz will be setting up half court defense significantly less through the course of the season, it is definitely something to keep an eye on.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think the jazz need to focus on slowing the pace, drive the grinding D. That is what will win games for us. We saw with GS what happens when we try to compete in a track meet. I think it's a strength that we can play at a fast pace, but it shouldn't be our identity. It should be a weapon in the arsenal, not our only bullet.

They shot the ball really well and we were a bounce here or there away from winning. We played like we needed to... we lost the game when we slowed down honestly.

Favs should just be a backup center against the warriors. Green can keep him off the glass and you need so much perimeter defense and shooting. Against other teams I don’t have an issue. Rockets have Tucker I guess but outside of that favs should be able to punish teams that go small and I think his corner shooting is somewhat legit.

 

[NAOS]

They shot the ball really well and we were a bounce here or there away from winning. We played like we needed to... we lost the game when we slowed down honestly..

The game turned against us in the 3rd quarter. IMO, it wasn't a pace issue. We threw away something like 5 out of 6 or 7 possessions when individual players were trying to do too much on their own. Doris called it perfectly.

 

[LogGrad98]

They shot the ball really well and we were a bounce here or there away from winning. We played like we needed to... we lost the game when we slowed down honestly.

Favs should just be a backup center against the warriors. Green can keep him off the glass and you need so much perimeter defense and shooting. Against other teams I don’t have an issue. Rockets have Tucker I guess but outside of that favs should be able to punish teams that go small and I think his corner shooting is somewhat legit.

I think we didn't lose due to slowing down. We lost because our offense became stagnant. We ran at a slow pace last year, but won a lot because we run a motion offense that creates open looks in the half-court set. We lost because we stopped running the motion offense, not because we slowed the pace. We can run a slow pace and still keep our motion offense purring so we create open looks.

 

[candrew]

Andy Larsen has an article in the SLT today which basically plagiarizes my posts in this thread.

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2018/10/21/heres-why-jazz-just-about/

I'll be contacting my attorneys.

While the long term impact is to be determined, the short term #'s are frightening - at the accelerated pace, Favors and Gobert on the court at the same time has resulted in a huge point disparity - The Jazz basically suck on both ends of the floor.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The game turned against us in the 3rd quarter. IMO, it wasn't a pace issue. We threw away something like 5 out of 6 or 7 possessions when individual players were trying to do too much on their own. Doris called it perfectly.

She did... she is so great... I laugh because all my friends and family that watch casually hate her for some reason. She knows her stuff and I love when she calls the game.

We got tight, but I think part of what really slowed us down was trying to run clock and just going iso... just keep running the offense. Still had shots to win it and a bounce here or there and its a victory.

Honestly... KD and Steph played almost as good as they can... and so did we (some improvements can be made but still) and we were right there. I'm more encouraged by this game then when we beat them by 40 when they layed down.