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The Return -- Celtics @ Jazz 11/9/2019 7:30 pm MST ESPN

Ostertag>Duncan said:
On The Jump both Richard Jefferson and Scottie Pippen think we'll give him a standing ovation lol. Oh boi
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They don't know the facts... I think some people will really be put off by how hard we boo. Prepare for some "boo" shaming.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
That’s so weird.

And they’ll use those expectations to trash Jazz fans when we boo the **** out of him. As we should, and like ANY other fan base would.
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RJ should know better... he played here.
 
Rationalize it all you want, what Gordon Hayward did to the franchise was crappy. Even the most naive people should be able to see that he was leaving for Boston probably the whole time. I don't blame him for signing with Charlotte as soon as he got a chance because we didn't sign him before free agency started. Our indecision pushed him to do that but he never hesitated it seemed. As soon as he started to get closer to unrestricted free agency, he said all the garbage that a guy staying would say but of course he left. His theatrics the day of his leaving were simply pathetic. A weak play by a weak man.

Maybe I was the only one to see through his false loyalty, but I doubt it. I don't live in the world of "should haves", but we should have traded him a long time before he just left.

Boo his ***
 
The Kyle Lowry stuff threw some new salt in the wound for me. If we had that lined up then opted to wait for Hayward to decide and to do the Ricky deal that is really ******. Who knows how real or complete it was... but mother eff... if you swapped Ricky for Kyle we'd be as close to a contender as anyone imo.

I didn't think we had serious contingency plans that were screwed up... once we did the Ricky deal we were pretty locked in cap wise. Sucks when you go all in and you lose.

The other part... Gordon doesn't get the benefit of DM saving us. If DM wasn't amazing the franchise would be in a world of hurt right now... likely looking at an end of lotto treadmill or a complete tear down rebuild.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The Kyle Lowry stuff threw some new salt in the wound for me. If we had that lined up then opted to wait for Hayward to decide and to do the Ricky deal that is really ******. Who knows how real or complete it was... but mother eff... if you swapped Ricky for Kyle we'd be as close to a contender as anyone imo.

I didn't think we had serious contingency plans that were screwed up... once we did the Ricky deal we were pretty locked in cap wise. Sucks when you go all in and you lose.

The other part... Gordon doesn't get the benefit of DM saving us. If DM wasn't amazing the franchise would be in a world of hurt right now... likely looking at an end of lotto treadmill or a complete tear down rebuild.
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If it helps, the Lowry thing is most likely a fabrication/smoke screen of some sort. The best offer we could make for him was about 22M a year, while he got 33 from Toronto... So unless you think he would come to Utah for 10-12M less than he would make in TOR... it probably was never going to happen.
 
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stitches said:
If it helps, the Lowry thing is most likely a fabrication/smoke screen of some sort. The best offer we could make for him was about 22M a year, while he got 33 from Toronto... So unless you think he would come to Utah for 10-12M less than he would make in TOR... it probably was never going to happen.
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Please delete this and tell me tomorrow... I need all the hate to flow through me tonight. I will be more willing to accept reason then. TIA
 
stitches said:
If it helps, the Lowry thing is most likely a fabrication/smoke screen of some sort. The best offer we could make for him was about 22M a year, while he got 33 from Toronto... So unless you think he would come to Utah for 10-12M less than he would make in TOR... it probably was never going to happen.
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No, it was a legitimate thing.
 
We should really show Hayward that we don't give a shi* about him no more. By doing too much, will show him we are still butt hurt ...
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The Kyle Lowry stuff threw some new salt in the wound for me. If we had that lined up then opted to wait for Hayward to decide and to do the Ricky deal that is really ******. Who knows how real or complete it was... but mother eff... if you swapped Ricky for Kyle we'd be as close to a contender as anyone imo.

I didn't think we had serious contingency plans that were screwed up... once we did the Ricky deal we were pretty locked in cap wise. Sucks when you go all in and you lose.

The other part... Gordon doesn't get the benefit of DM saving us. If DM wasn't amazing the franchise would be in a world of hurt right now... likely looking at an end of lotto treadmill or a complete tear down rebuild.
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And who knows, the Lowry thing might have involved trading Mitchell in a S&T thing (that's me speculating). When I was told about it, all that was said that their was mutual interest if Hayward stayed. Since there wasnt the cap-space, I would assume some kind of deal.
 
UtahJazz32 said:
We should really show Hayward that we don't give a shi* about him no more. By doing too much, will show him we are still butt hurt ...
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Unless Hayward is completely internet illiterate he can pretty easily see how butthurt a lot of fans still are.
 
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