US Pulling Out of Paris Climate Accord

[RandyForRubio]

Several things here.

1st, it should not be the President's decision. This is essentially a treaty with other countries. It is up to the Senate and Congress to decide. They are not there just for advice, it is their decision. This started with the Obama administration, is continuing with the Trump administration, and both of them are wrong for it.

Second, there is some real debate as to whether this actually is a good idea. With it, we're looking at maybe a 0.17 C change in degrees over the next 70 years. That's globally. So what would we get from that? Well, an estimate a 15-20% increase in household electrical expenditures over the next decade. A loss of about 400,000 jobs. Total income loss of about $30,000 for a family of 4. Aggregate GDP loss of $2.5 Trillion. That's not exactly great.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Several things here.

1st, it should not be the President's decision. This is essentially a treaty with other countries. It is up to the Senate and Congress to decide. They are not there just for advice, it is their decision. This started with the Obama administration, is continuing with the Trump administration, and both of them are wrong for it.

Second, there is some real debate as to whether this actually is a good idea. With it, we're looking at maybe a 0.17 C change in degrees over the next 70 years. That's globally. So what would we get from that? Well, an estimate a 15-20% increase in household electrical expenditures over the next decade. A loss of about 400,000 jobs. Total income loss of about $30,000 for a family of 4. Aggregate GDP loss of $2.5 Trillion. That's not exactly great.

how is trump wrong!

obama bypassed senate! so trump just undid that!


and even if man made catastrophic climate change is real, the paris climate accord wont do anything

 

[♪alt13]

Again, California is having the money problems they are having because they are floating republican states. If you allow California to stop REDISTRIBUTING their wealth to keep people in the south alive, California explodes. The rest of the US would wilt, but California would be great.

Thank god for redistribution of wealth, right? Hell, those right wing states need to thank their god everyday for blue states and the federal dollars they pour into the system to keep food on their table in the form of food stamps and free healthcare and net neutrality that allows them to sit on their asses all day, collect their government checks, listen to Rush and Hannity and google these ridiculous conspiracy theories.

https://www.politifact.com/california/article/2017/feb/14/does-california-give-more-it-gets-dc/

The federal government, Coupal added, is inextricably linked to the state, not just in what it pays to federal employees, but through its management of national parks, military protection and other services the state would struggle to pay for itself.
"It’s really almost an academic debate. I know why people try to use the argument that we’re a donor state to make some sort of point," Coupal said. "It really doesn’t make much difference."

You will notice below that Utah, Wisconsin, Nevada, Texas, Kansas, Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, Indiana, and Minnesota all receive less federal money per capita than California. It doesn't look like a red state blue state thing to me. Further,iirc, of the top six states all but Alaska went to Clinton.

 

[RandyForRubio]

how is trump wrong!

obama bypassed senate! so trump just undid that!


and even if man made catastrophic climate change is real, the paris climate accord wont do anything

Trump should have done the right thing and sent it to the senate. Continuing Obama's mistakes is not the right thing.

 

[Beantown]

lol!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTQawCff87A

let the hate rain in!

lefties hate the wall but ooh got solar

I think it's a great idea.

 

[♪alt13]

I think it's a great idea.

Ugh

 

[DutchJazzer]

Ugh

dont be a science denier! global cooling is REAL BRAH!

 

[DutchJazzer]

mods can the title be changed to France pulling out of paris climate accords

this **** is just funny
globalism/eunism/leftism is falling apart worldwide!

better now than later. ebcause if this woul happen 10-20 years down the line it would be a full on crusade

 

[DutchJazzer]

ytou may make fun of the french and they may be hated. but one thing they know how to do is REVOLT!

 

[DutchJazzer]

this is a WARZONE! and people call trump the fascist. this seems like fascism!

 

[DutchJazzer]

fully armed men marching in the streets followed by vans to lock up protesters.

all because of some psuedo hogwash climate science and climate accords. WAR!

 

[DutchJazzer]