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US Pulling Out of Paris Climate Accord

green said:
This was written by a conservative who is actually intelligent:



I've said this before, but when did it become so cool on the right to be ignorant? Is it "faith" in something higher that allows them to be so stupid on a topic like this and not worry about it? Do they have too much "faith" in these AM radio blowhards?

How do they no realize that Hannity, Rush, Jones, etc are all actors and are in it for the money? They don't believe a word they sell (especially Rush, he has made it perfectly clear that he is in it for the money).

But whatev's.
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On the right? It's everybody! Look at Thriller for petes sake.
 
Yeah, I'd say both sides give into overheated and frantic speech, as if it is necessary to beat people over the head with the worst possible outcomes and the reassurances that only they have the solutions to fix all problems. I do agree that 24-hr news cycles have created monsters who must spew forth opinion as if it were fact. TV and radio ratings have more to do with governing than our elected officials do.

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green said:
This was written by a conservative who is actually intelligent:



I've said this before, but when did it become so cool on the right to be ignorant? Is it "faith" in something higher that allows them to be so stupid on a topic like this and not worry about it? Do they have too much "faith" in these AM radio blowhards?

How do they no realize that Hannity, Rush, Jones, etc are all actors and are in it for the money? They don't believe a word they sell (especially Rush, he has made it perfectly clear that he is in it for the money).

But whatev's.
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I think this is a rash, unfounded judgment. Sure, there may be some self-interest in some. I don't think Rush is solely motivated by his ratings. I think he has a lot of good sense and intelligent judgment, and that he is successful for sincerely presenting his ideas, which many folks sincerely appreciate.

I think Jones is a core believer in his world view, a man on a mission. I think he doesn't understand some of the subtleties of human nature and the the actual inability of evil humans to govern the world with a winning program, say, like global governance, and that their failure will be the main problem we hopefully more altruistic humans will have to deal with, or try to deal with. I have studied all his material, and take a position perhaps not too strange from Jonah's, or Colton's, that we need to question all zealots, right or left.

Hannity, however, has convinced me of his sociable good nature and good will for all Americans and his loyalty to traditional American principles. I really respect Hannity. More than anyone else.

A few others worth mentioning for comparison are Andrew Wilkow, who is a Milton Friedman/Ayn Rand economic analyst with some solid observations on why socialism and non-market expenditures are ineffective whatever we hope to accomplish with them.

The Breitbart folks are the most credible news analysts in the market right now in terms of objectivity, which is not really any kind of wholesale endorsement for them or anyone.

One of the people I truly respect, and consider articulate and intelligent, even more than Rush, is David Webb.

The fundamental problem with the mainstream is a wholesale commitment to a false narrative and regime change for the sake of a partisan cause. They have zero credibility, like some posters in here.
 
Hawaii just passed a law trying to align itself with the Paris agreement.
 
Stoked said:
Hawaii just passed a law trying to align itself with the Paris agreement.
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nobody can stop you, really, if you want to personally align with any view or idea or agreement. Go for it.

A State does not have that option. In becoming a State, the State of Hawaii submitted to the vagaries of the US Federal government. People should understand it as taxing citizens to give the money away to foreigners with no strings attached, effectively making Hawaiians a back-of-bus no-account class with inferior rights to the scammers of Nigeria or Ghana. Of course all the devotees to the cult of Global Fascism are no strangers to the Stockholm Syndrome, and if they are indeed effective community organizers, they should consider the plight millions of effective agitators in the 200* years of progressive agitators beginning with the Jacobins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobin
 
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DutchJazzer said:
california did the same
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Symbolic perhaps. Meaningful, no.

The Accord was about taxing Americans and handing the money over to "poor" nations. California is bankrupt itself, begging for Federal aid. If they want to drive businesses over the river to Arizona, or over the Sierra to Nevada.... well, those places are booming.
 
babe said:
nobody can stop you, really, if you want to personally align with any view or idea or agreement. Go for it.

A State does not have that option. In becoming a State, the State of Hawaii submitted to the vagaries of the US Federal government. People should understand it as taxing citizens to give the money away to foreigners with no strings attached, effectively making Hawaiians a back-of-bus no-account class with inferior rights to the scammers of Nigeria or Ghana. Of course all the devotees to the cult of Global Fascism are no strangers to the Stockholm Syndrome, and if they are indeed effective community organizers, they should consider the plight millions of effective agitators in the 200* years of progressive agitators beginning with the Jacobins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobin
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Actually in this case they mostly can. If the Paris agreement is stricter than what the US gov requires than they are still meeting the gov requirements and everyone is happy.
 
babe said:
I think this is a rash, unfounded judgment. Sure, there may be some self-interest in some. I don't think Rush is solely motivated by his ratings. I think he has a lot of good sense and intelligent judgment, and that he is successful for sincerely presenting his ideas, which many folks sincerely appreciate.

I think Jones is a core believer in his world view, a man on a mission. I think he doesn't understand some of the subtleties of human nature and the the actual inability of evil humans to govern the world with a winning program, say, like global governance, and that their failure will be the main problem we hopefully more altruistic humans will have to deal with, or try to deal with. I have studied all his material, and take a position perhaps not too strange from Jonah's, or Colton's, that we need to question all zealots, right or left.

Hannity, however, has convinced me of his sociable good nature and good will for all Americans and his loyalty to traditional American principles. I really respect Hannity. More than anyone else.

A few others worth mentioning for comparison are Andrew Wilkow, who is a Milton Friedman/Ayn Rand economic analyst with some solid observations on why socialism and non-market expenditures are ineffective whatever we hope to accomplish with them.

The Breitbart folks are the most credible news analysts in the market right now in terms of objectivity, which is not really any kind of wholesale endorsement for them or anyone.

One of the people I truly respect, and consider articulate and intelligent, even more than Rush, is David Webb.

The fundamental problem with the mainstream is a wholesale commitment to a false narrative and regime change for the sake of a partisan cause. They have zero credibility, like some posters in here.
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Breitbart is a joke. It really is. I remember when the wiretapping came out, Breitbart published an article that was an outright lie, the quoted themselves, and then took those quotes out of context...

lol.

I have liked you babe. You make me think and make me make sure about my ideas.

But Hannity and Breitbart? They are everything wrong with news these days. They are nothing more than conspiracists looking for ratings. They have taken what Limbaugh does and taken it to the next level or ridiculousness and prove my point about the ignorant right.

When I looked at Breitbart's article on wire tapping, I clicked the links. I then discovered that they quoted themselves and even with that quote, completely took their quote out of context to try to make their point.

Pathetic.
 
babe said:
Symbolic perhaps. Meaningful, no.

The Accord was about taxing Americans and handing the money over to "poor" nations. California is bankrupt itself, begging for Federal aid. If they want to drive businesses over the river to Arizona, or over the Sierra to Nevada.... well, those places are booming.
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Again, California is having the money problems they are having because they are floating republican states. If you allow California to stop REDISTRIBUTING their wealth to keep people in the south alive, California explodes. The rest of the US would wilt, but California would be great.

Thank god for redistribution of wealth, right? Hell, those right wing states need to thank their god everyday for blue states and the federal dollars they pour into the system to keep food on their table in the form of food stamps and free healthcare and net neutrality that allows them to sit on their asses all day, collect their government checks, listen to Rush and Hannity and google these ridiculous conspiracy theories.
 
green said:
Again, California is having the money problems they are having because they are floating republican states. If you allow California to stop REDISTRIBUTING their wealth to keep people in the south alive, California explodes. The rest of the US would wilt, but California would be great.

Thank god for redistribution of wealth, right? Hell, those right wing states need to thank their god everyday for blue states and the federal dollars they pour into the system to keep food on their table in the form of food stamps and free healthcare and net neutrality that allows them to sit on their asses all day, collect their government checks, listen to Rush and Hannity and google these ridiculous conspiracy theories.
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so you are syaing socialism doesnt work???
 
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