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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

Griffin is the one star type guy I think might actually be gettable and I think it'd be worth a shot, his salary really is quite off putting.
 
LoPo said:
I think we could run our offense with Beal, Mitchell and Ingles on the floor. Ideally, I would love a PG, but I still think we would be okay.

If we just ran the PnR with Mitchell and Gobert while Ingles, Beal and Crowder are spot up, we would destroy people. Opponents couldn't send 2 or 3 guys to the paint when Mitchell gets close to the basket if Beal/Ingles/Jae are sitting on the perimeter. And if the big man comes to Mitchell, it's lob city.
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No!!!!! Mitchell played his first good game it feels like forever. Against the Cavs may I say as well. And everyone thinks he's a superstar. Where the numbers say hes been hurting his team the 2nd most in the league. By numbers! Whilst Dante is out here killing it. Wtf no!!!
 
Jazz4ever said:
We'd be a sorry looking team without Ingles. If you believe the advanced stats like RPM and win shares he is more important to this team than anyone. And that includes Rudy Gobert.
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It's kind of strange he still makes such a huge impact even while having a down shooting year.
 
Jazz said:
No!!!!! Mitchell played his first good game it feels like forever. Against the Cavs may I say as well. And everyone thinks he's a superstar. Where the numbers say hes been hurting his team the 2nd most in the league. By numbers! Whilst Dante is out here killing it. Wtf no!!!
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If you follow my logic throughout the thread, you'll see that I want to keep Exum. Worst case scenario, you sacrifice Exum if you have to in order to get Beal.
 
LoPo said:
Without doing any research I'd have to assume another team could offer the Wiz a better package than the Jazz could for Beal. @tonstermits

You are probably right, but let's break down what the other likely candidates are:

Toronto
Players: Valanciunus ($17+ next year - does Washington even want him?), Powell (bad contract), Van Vleet (any improvement over Satoransky?), CJ Miles (eh, $8+ next year), OG Anunoby (they probably wouldn't trade him), Siakam (probably wouldn't trade him)
Picks: Can't trade a 1st until 2021
Overall - unless Toronto trades OG or Siakam, Toronto really doesn't have a great offer. All of their contracts they would have to attach to one of those guys are pretty bad. We offer a better situation in terms of draft picks.

NOLA
Players: Hill ($13+ next year), Mirotic (valuable, but expiring), Moore ($8.5+ next year), Randle (valuable, but expiring), Wesley Johnson (worthless expiring player), Payton (expiring), Frank Johnson (only young, extended contract player)
Picks: They have all theirs
Overall: Unless Washington loves Mirotic and Randle and wants to gamble on bringing them back this summer, Favors and Grayson/Bradley or even Exum is as good or better. Draft picks are even because us with Beal or them with Beal about the same.

Charlotte
Players: Batum (no for Wiz), Biyombo (no for Wiz), Marvin ($15 next year), Zeller (no for Wiz), Kidd-Gilchrest ($13 next year), Lamb (expiring), Kaminsky (eh), Bridges (excellent trade piece if they are willing to trade him), Monk (okay piece)
Picks: They have all theirs
Overall: Charlotte can definitely beat our best offer if they send their 2019 and 2021 1sts and send Bridges. The Wiz would have to take a big contract like Biyombo or Marvin, but the picks and Bridges makes it worth it. Without Bridges, we can beat Charlotte's best deal.

Houston
They simply don't have the combination of picks or a young player that Washington would want. Even if they send 3 1st round picks, Washington's best returning player would be Knight and Chriss.Mia

Miami
Players: Whiteside ($27 million next year), Tyler Johnson ($19 next year), Dragic (redundant with Wall), James Johnson ($15 next year), Waiters ($13+ th next two years), Olynyk (a player who might fit in Washington - decent contract), Richardson (great contract), Ellington (expiring), Adebayo (rookie deal)
Picks: Miami doesn't have 2021 so they could send 2019 and 2023
Overall: Miami could probably beat any of our deals if they send any three of Richardson, Adebayo, Olynyk, Ellington and the 1sts.

Lakers
They aren't going to risk losing AD in the summer by moving one of their 4 young guys (Lonzo, Hart, Kuzma, Ingram) for Beal before the deadline

Detroit
I don't think it's worth discussing since the best they can offer is Kennard, Stanley Johnson, bad contracts and picks. Maybe if they send a 3rd 1st but....

So I think our biggest competition is Charlotte (if they send Bridges) and Miami (if they send a number of their decent players).
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I will change my icon to a G rated pic of Dwight Howard being a 6'11 bottom if the Wizards trade Beal. They're not doing it, especially for any of these offers.
 
If the Wizards really want to tank post ASB, they'll come up with some BS injury for Beal after they've shipped out Porter Jr and sit him the rest of the season.
 
Sandman822 said:
If the Wizards really want to tank post ASB, they'll come up with some BS injury for Beal after they've shipped out Porter Jr and sit him the rest of the season.
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I would be absolutely blown away shocked if both Porter AND Beal are on the roster after the trade deadline. The only way I see it being possible is if they start winning. Other than that, somebody will get traded. With or without Wall, they don't work together.
 
LoPo said:
I would be absolutely blown away shocked if both Porter AND Beal are on the roster after the trade deadline. The only way I see it being possible is if they start winning. Other than that, somebody will get traded. With or without Wall, they don't work together.
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I don't think you can say that, Porter/Beal last year were a +5.3 together in 2199 minutes played. Porter has played poorly this year and they're a -2.1 this year together, but that's still the best net rating for Porter + one of their starters for the year by a significant margin.

Wall has always been the one who struggles to co-exist with the rest of the team, Beal and Porter compliment each other's games well when Porter isn't sucking.
 
Sandman822 said:
I don't think you can say that, Porter/Beal last year were a +5.3 together in 2199 minutes played. Porter has played poorly this year and they're a -2.1 this year together, but that's still the best net rating for Porter + one of their starters for the year by a significant margin.

Wall has always been the one who struggles to co-exist with the rest of the team, Beal and Porter compliment each other's games well when Porter isn't sucking.
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Yeah, but Wall is hurt and wont get traded. We know that.

So like I said earlier, they would have to start winning before the deadline to keep Beal AND Porter. If they dont win enough and we all know they all 3 don't work well together, a change will be made.

I think they will trade Porter, but if Beal low key asks for a trade, they will trade him.

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