Utah Not even a thought for Free Agents...
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Chad Feldheimer
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Come to Utah. You most likely won't win it all nor get the most money..... wait let me re-phrase that...
It's such an awful place that the greatest player of all time has a home in Park City. A lot of these players who've rejected Utah in the past have pre-conceived notions that they refuse to even consider giving it a chance. And I don't even live in Utah but i've been and have seen first hand how well supported the team is, its a family like atmosphere between the fans and the team. Once players get to Utah they seem to learn it's not all that bad..unfortunately, many of these guys are too small minded to even give it a chance based on stereotypes and generalizations. That article I'd imagine was written by Monson.
Which is what....somehow less desirable than cowboys and dust?
Seriously, I think Utah is in the same class as Indiana, Milwaukee, Charlotte, Portland, Oklahoma City and other small-market teams. Oklahoma City has cap room and one of the best young rosters in the league, but they don't seem to be attracting a big-time free agent.
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shadler
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don't forget a bad contract with fes
This...When it comes to places to live, Utah is a diamond in the rough. Honestly who the hell would want to live in a **** hole place like Detroit. Went on vacation there 3 years ago and it is honestly one of the rawest cities ive ever been to.
Utah > Det, Oklahoma, Mil , Indiana, Wash...... just to name a few.
To each their own Viny. I have thoroughly enjoyed it the times i've been, not just because I'm a Jazz fan but I enjoy the wildlife (outside the city), the natural beauty of the mountains,the terrain, etc.. aesthetically it's beautiful. And i'm not lying to myself, that's my honest opinion, and Park City is a fun place also. I'm not a big partier, so I enjoy the slow pace and the peaceful nature of a smaller city, compared to the hustle and bustle of the northeast where I reside; it's a nice respite. Again though, to each their own.
Salt Lake is a nice little city. It reminds me of a smaller version of Denver, which is also a good city.
There are far worse places in the US than it. Most of them in the rust belt area of the US. Or most cities in Texas.
Duck Rodgers
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Is any city really boring if you have millions and millions of dollars? I think the wives are probably the hardest sell. The players get a huge chuck of summer to go wherever they want.....they are constantly on the road during the season.....I don't think location would be that big of deal to me if I were an NBA player. I think all the NBA cities are decent enough to spend some days in every now and then. And who knows, a lot of these guys are coming from bigger cities anyway, maybe Salt Lake appeals to some of them because it's not huge. I know how much I missed Utah when I lived in Tokyo. There is something to be said for breathing room.
But then again, I don't go to Salt Lake except to use the airport and I'm only either 30 minutes away in Park City or 45 minutes in Provo. Just don't have a reason to.
But then again, I don't go to Salt Lake except to use the airport and I'm only either 30 minutes away in Park City or 45 minutes in Provo. Just don't have a reason to.
UGLI baby
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Not so fast everyone.
I posted an article similar to this on the old forum. This is the updated version from two days ago.
https://www.realgm.com/src_feature_pieces/931/20100628/the_lebron_james_power_rankings_version_20/
We are in the conversation, people. In fact this author thinks the conversation STARTS with The Jazz.
I'm not saying its a done deal or anything, but the author did basically gaurantee it by calling Lebron to The Jazz "untouchable."
Not sure how much credibility the author has but RealGM is a pretty legit source.
I posted an article similar to this on the old forum. This is the updated version from two days ago.
https://www.realgm.com/src_feature_pieces/931/20100628/the_lebron_james_power_rankings_version_20/
We are in the conversation, people. In fact this author thinks the conversation STARTS with The Jazz.
I'm not saying its a done deal or anything, but the author did basically gaurantee it by calling Lebron to The Jazz "untouchable."
Not sure how much credibility the author has but RealGM is a pretty legit source.
Sean
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I like living in Salt Lake. But I'm also not an athlete. I'm also not black. I could see how being a 20-something year old black dude could deter someone from the city. Is it fully justifiable? No. But let's not fool ourselves here. NBA players aren't going to pick Utah because of its skiing or its hiking. Some have been able to assimilate to the state more than others - but the overall factors go against the state.
For starters, we're still a very small market in a region that has been considered a flyover state since airplanes took flight.
Now the perception has changed a bit, but in reality, we've still got a long ways to go.
And because of that, I can't think of many NBA cities that are less desirable for an NBA player.
I think maybe Sacramento and Memphis are worse than Salt Lake.
San Antonio is probably close. But of course, the Spurs drafted their two most important franchise players (Robinson and Duncan). So they've not really been out there shopping for the biggest names. It also doesn't hurt they own the second most titles in the 21st Century.
I think it's obvious the Jazz will have a difficult time building their team through free agency. They'll get parts, but it will be difficult to land a player who's one of the best at his position.
That's why I'm not fully on board with the idea losing Boozer automatically makes Utah better. I don't think it does. I think we'll regress and even without his contract or AK's contract, we'll still struggle to get a really good player.
So that means we've got to build this team through the draft and the draft is a far bigger crapshoot because the talent is untested. Not many franchises build championship contenders through the NBA draft. Most do it through free agency and trades. L.A. would've never won its championships without Gasol. Boston wouldn't have won theirs without the ridiculous dealings a few years ago. And Miami wouldn't have won theirs if they didn't get Shaq.
The path to championship contention will never be through free agency here at Utah. It'll be through drafting and trades.
Even then, the Jazz face an uphill battle because if a player isn't going to willingly sign with Utah in the off-season, it's probably unlikely he'd support a trade here - at least a big-time player.
It is what it is, though. That's a big reason why I'm not the type to dismiss what the Jazz has done over the years.
The fact we're one of the most consistent teams in the league, knowing we're probably in the least desirable city, speaks volumes for the franchise.
Sacramento has had one good run (1999-2005). Memphis hasn't done anything of note since relocating from Vancouver.
The other cities are probably more ideal for an NBA player. Yet even a good number of them struggle at besting what Utah has done recently (Portland, Denver, Minnesota, Golden State and even Dallas).
For starters, we're still a very small market in a region that has been considered a flyover state since airplanes took flight.
Now the perception has changed a bit, but in reality, we've still got a long ways to go.
And because of that, I can't think of many NBA cities that are less desirable for an NBA player.
I think maybe Sacramento and Memphis are worse than Salt Lake.
San Antonio is probably close. But of course, the Spurs drafted their two most important franchise players (Robinson and Duncan). So they've not really been out there shopping for the biggest names. It also doesn't hurt they own the second most titles in the 21st Century.
I think it's obvious the Jazz will have a difficult time building their team through free agency. They'll get parts, but it will be difficult to land a player who's one of the best at his position.
That's why I'm not fully on board with the idea losing Boozer automatically makes Utah better. I don't think it does. I think we'll regress and even without his contract or AK's contract, we'll still struggle to get a really good player.
So that means we've got to build this team through the draft and the draft is a far bigger crapshoot because the talent is untested. Not many franchises build championship contenders through the NBA draft. Most do it through free agency and trades. L.A. would've never won its championships without Gasol. Boston wouldn't have won theirs without the ridiculous dealings a few years ago. And Miami wouldn't have won theirs if they didn't get Shaq.
The path to championship contention will never be through free agency here at Utah. It'll be through drafting and trades.
Even then, the Jazz face an uphill battle because if a player isn't going to willingly sign with Utah in the off-season, it's probably unlikely he'd support a trade here - at least a big-time player.
It is what it is, though. That's a big reason why I'm not the type to dismiss what the Jazz has done over the years.
The fact we're one of the most consistent teams in the league, knowing we're probably in the least desirable city, speaks volumes for the franchise.
Sacramento has had one good run (1999-2005). Memphis hasn't done anything of note since relocating from Vancouver.
The other cities are probably more ideal for an NBA player. Yet even a good number of them struggle at besting what Utah has done recently (Portland, Denver, Minnesota, Golden State and even Dallas).