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gandalfe said:
I don't know if I'd say he's the greatest. There's a lot of people in the discussion for that. Oldman, Jeffrey Wright, Dinklage. Oldman and Wright are chameleons, they can play absolutely anybody. Dinklage is so great he conveys more information with a facial expression than good actors do with a 5 minute soliloquy.

But, yeah, Ali is phenomenal.
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I knew I’d get a response to that.

Dinklage is solid but he’s not in the same ballpark imo. And Wright is just okay. A very overrated good actor imo. He telegraphs too much. Shaft may be his best performance tbh. Oldman is fair. The guy’s got a sick resumé.
 
b_line said:
I must be in the minority that liked season 2. Obviously season 1 was all time great, but season 2 was still better than a lot if shows out there
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It was super convoluted. Farrell and Vaughn were good though. Everything else was pretty much dumpster juice.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
I knew I’d get a response to that.

Dinklage is solid but he’s not in the same ballpark imo. And Wright is just okay. A very overrated good actor imo. He telegraphs too much. Shaft may be his best performance tbh. Oldman is fair. The guy’s got a sick resumé.
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Just to reassure myself, I had to go through and watch some Jeffrey Wright selections. I think you may have just not seen him in much, and there's some stuff in this short video that I didn't even know about (MLK????):

This doesn't even touch on a bunch of them, like his role in Shaft that you mentioned, which was supposed to just be a tiny little thing but he was so good they made him the main villain.

 
Season Two was like a bad attempt at making a David Lynch serial. Plus, at least to me, the characters were completely unlikeable - l didn't give a **** about any of them.

Season Three seems to be following the Season One formula . So far so good.
 
gandalfe said:
Just to reassure myself, I had to go through and watch some Jeffrey Wright selections. I think you may have just not seen him in much, and there's some stuff in this short video that I didn't even know about (MLK????):

This doesn't even touch on a bunch of them, like his role in Shaft that you mentioned, which was supposed to just be a tiny little thing but he was so good they made him the main villain.

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I’ve seen Wright in a lot. I just went through his IMDb page and have seen Shaft, Syriana, Westworld, Casino Royale, that recent heap on Netflix, Boardwalk Empire, Source Code, The Invasion, Broken City, The Ides of March, W., The Ides of March, The Manchurian Candidate, Eye See You, Quantum of Solace, the first Hunger Games (never saw the rest) Broken Flowers, and A Single Shot...so a ton. He’s just not very impressive. Talking slowly and trying to sound intelligent doesn’t equate into great acting. Don’t get me wrong. I like him. But he’s not in the same ballpark as Ali. There’s not the subtlety there. For me anyway.

That said, I don’t remember him in a lot of that stuff. My vague recollection is he was different (more normal?) in Broken Flowers and that he was sort of refreshing. Loved him in Shaft years ago. I think I liked him in Ides of March (which sort of stunk) and The MC too in which he was wackedout iirc. But again, just not the same. He doesn’t have the presence, depth or versatility of an Ali.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It was super convoluted. Farrell and Vaughn were good though. Everything else was pretty much dumpster juice.
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Yeah, I think I'm a terrible judge because I don't put things together about TV shows until later, but I do remember it wasn't memorable like the first season.
Wes Mantooth said:
I’ve seen Wright in a lot. I just went through his IMDb page and have seen Shaft, Syriana, Westworld, Casino Royale, that recent heap on Netflix, Boardwalk Empire, Source Code, The Invasion, Broken City, The Ides of March, W., The Ides of March, The Manchurian Candidate, Eye See You, Quantum of Solace, the first Hunger Games (never saw the rest) Broken Flowers, and A Single Shot...so a ton. He’s just not very impressive. Talking slowly and trying to sound intelligent doesn’t equate into great acting. Don’t get me wrong. I like him. But he’s not in the same ballpark as Ali. There’s not the subtlety there. For me anyway.

That said, I don’t remember him in a lot of that stuff. My vague recollection is he was different (more normal?) in Broken Flowers and that he was sort of refreshing. Loved him in Shaft years ago. I think I liked him in Ides of March (which sort of stunk) and The MC too in which he was wackedout iirc. But again, just not the same. He doesn’t have the presence, depth or versatility of an Ali.
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I feel like the role in westworld and the space movie with Matthew McConaughey fit him perfectly. Other than that, I don't think I've been too impressed with him
 
b_line said:
Yeah, I think I'm a terrible judge because I don't put things together about TV shows until later, but I do remember it wasn't memorable like the first season.

I feel like the role in westworld and the space movie with Matthew McConaughey fit him perfectly. Other than that, I don't think I've been too impressed with him
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He was in Interstellar? That wasn’t him.
 
His Libyan candidate was annoying on BW. He just feels like he does the same quiet, low key, supposedly intelligent character in 2/3’s of his stuff. Bored with it.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
His Libyan candidate was annoying on BW. He just feels like he does the same quiet, low key, supposedly intelligent character in 2/3’s of his stuff. Bored with it.
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I guess I'm still been thinking more of his early work than the fact that, yeah, he has been pretty much playing the same character for the last few years. As the video mentions, before he got typecast, he was all over the map on his characters, playing historical figures with laserlike accuracy, and wild characters that seemed real because of his portrayal. Check out Angels In America, an HBO miniseries based on a play. He won a Tony for the play, and and Emmy for the miniseries.
 
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