2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

[NAOS]

Yeah, so you all can go back to this Conley BS

Do you mean we can discuss the pros and cons of the most rumored/probable transaction? On this sports forum, son?

 

[Getting Traded]

If Gasol is not playing and Conley is playing tonight, doesn't that mean that Gasol is the one being traded, or at least he is almost sure to be traded. It also means nothing is imminent on moving Conley and he may not be traded.

 

[LoPo]

After tonight Magic and Pelinka gonna be like... so about us pulling out of the negotiation... how many firsts do you want?

The Lakers will pull off the trade and go into the playoffs as the 8 seed. They will play the Warriors in an absolute battle hopefully tiring Golden State out for the rest of the playoffs.

I hope we can make the trades possible to get in the 3, 6, or 7 seed. As long as we can avoid Golden State in the 1st or 2nd round, I like our chances if everyone is healthy.

I would love it if we upset Denver in the 2nd round then play somebody like San Antonio, Portland or OKC in the 2nd round. Maybe we can get to the West finals against a Golden State team who had to play the Lakers in round 1 and Rockets in round 2.

 

[Cptgrnlngs22]

Possibly. I don't think a lot of people realize how close the Jazz were to winning the west last year.

Look, NO move the Jazz can logically hope to make will definitively make them a better team than the Warriors. None. Nada.

Not Jrue Holiday.
Not Tobias Harris.
Not Jabari Parker.
Not Aaron Gordon.
Not Nikola Mirotic.
Not Lou Williams.
Not Zach Lavine.
Not anyone we have discussed as a logical possibility.

Unless there is a miracle situation where we could land a KD, AD, LeBron, Butler, PG13... like an All NBA level talent, we aren't going to move the needle as much as everyone on Jazzfanz would love.

So you're asking the wrong question. The question isn't "Does Conley make us the best in the west?", it's "Is Conley the best option out of the realistic possibilities in this moment?". The answer is debatable in my opinion. I understand both sides of the argument. If the Jazz make the trade I understand it. I do think it would make us better.

You are exactly right. It will take a few moves to get to where we want to be. I have a different opinion of who I want the jazz to go after but honestly what do I know? The jazz I am sure have done their due diligence in regard to any available player they feel would upgrade our roster. I feel like any of the options that were truly available on the market were high risk/ high reward. I guess I should just be happy the jazz are actually being aggressive.


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[Hitman]

Lakers getting gut punched by the Pacers... who have struggled. I guess when you publicly throw everyone on your team in a trade they stop playing super hard... weird.

Gonna be awkward in LA on Friday when nothing happens.

That's why I want the Pels to publicly offer an AD-for-LBJ trade. Lakers will obviously say no... and the rest of the team can then ask whether they were really all-in on acquiring AD, or all-in on pandering to LBJ's whims. And so will anyone thinking of LA as a free agent destination.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I mean the Lakers are down 30... didn't play last night... Indiana played in NO last night.... Bwaaaa hahahahahaha.

 

[mellow]

Best part of tonight....

Indy fans trolling Brandon Ingram by chanting "Lebron gonna trade you" when Ingram is at the ft line.

 

[Keefe]

Great start tonight. Clips down by 4 in 4th, Lakers getting shellacked, and the Thunder down by 3 to the Magic.

 

[Hotdog]

Good thing if we are trade for him he's not the centerpiece of our team.

Thats not the point.

He has a salary like he is the center piece of the team. If we do this, thats pretty much it. We arent getting any better. There will be no hope of adding anyone of significance.

Conley is fine if he is on a contract that matches his play.

All we would be doing is adopting the same problem Memphis has.

Also, just because we can make it work because we have Donovan for cheap doesnt mean we should.

 

[Cptgrnlngs22]

Thats not the point.

He has a salary like he is the center piece of the team. If we do this, thats pretty much it. We arent getting any better. There will be no hope of adding anyone of significance.

Conley is fine if he is on a contract that matches his play.

All we would be doing is adopting the same problem Memphis has.

Also, just because we can make it work because we have Donovan for cheap doesnt mean we should.

Patience is a virtue NAOSon


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[mellow]

Good thing if we are trade for him he's not the centerpiece of our team.

Nope, he would only be the highest paid, most experienced, have the ball in his hands more than anyone else and most nights gaurd the most explosive player on the opposing team.

There is also a good chance he will lead the team in shot attempts most nights.

Other than that he will pretty much blend in.

 

[mellow]

If Gasol is not playing and Conley is playing tonight, doesn't that mean that Gasol is the one being traded, or at least he is almost sure to be traded. It also means nothing is imminent on moving Conley and he may not be traded.

I read that a beat reporter was in Memphis Lockeroom....Gasols number had been taken off the wall and there was a bag of garbage next to Gasols old locker.

 

[NAOS]

Why would we want to use any of our cap space on re-signing Rubio?

Do you really think that lowly of Ricky? I’d happily have him back at around $12ish, which would be a team discount (perhaps a steep and unrealistic one). If we got a legit stretch-4, then things would improve a lot with him.

 

[hawkeye]

If AD added the Clippers as one of his preferred destinations, would it be possible for us to be a part of a 3 team trade to land Harris? Would LAC and UT be able to put together a better package than the Lakers? I don't know about the Clippers assets, but would Favors, Exum, Allen, + 2 or 3 first round picks get the ball rolling on our end?
If the Clippers landed AD, they could push for Kawhi in the offseason which puts them back towards the top. If we could somehow land Harris to help AD get to the clippers I'd be ecstatic. Gobert, Harris, Ingles, Mitchell and Rubio is a damn good looking starting lineup...

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If AD added the Clippers as one of his preferred destinations, would it be possible for us to be a part of a 3 team trade to land Harris? Would LAC and UT be able to put together a better package than the Lakers? I don't know about the Clippers assets, but would Favors, Exum, Allen, + 2 or 3 first round picks get the ball rolling on our end?
If the Clippers landed AD, they could push for Kawhi in the offseason which puts them back towards the top. If we could somehow land Harris to help AD get to the clippers I'd be ecstatic. Gobert, Harris, Ingles, Mitchell and Rubio is a damn good looking starting lineup...

Only scenario where we land Harris outside of FA. Maybe Exum and a first or salary and a first for our part. NO would have to love SGA and not have any hope of re-signing Harris. A few firsts and SGA, Exum, Expirings... kinda meh.

I think Lakers end up giving 3 or 4 unprotected firsts with their young guys and NO ends the drama and disappears into irrelevance.

 

[Jingled]

Do you really think that lowly of Ricky? I’d happily have him back at around $12ish, which would be a team discount (perhaps a steep and unrealistic one). If we got a legit stretch-4, then things would improve a lot with him.

To be honest I'm completely ready to move on from Ricky. The only reason we might be able to trade him right now is because he has an expiring contract. If we re-sign him to a 3 or 4 year deal then we are locked in to him as our starting point guard for the foreseeable future. If we can't find a replacement I would rather roll with Donovan at the point than blow our cap space on Rubio.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

If AD added the Clippers as one of his preferred destinations, would it be possible for us to be a part of a 3 team trade to land Harris? Would LAC and UT be able to put together a better package than the Lakers? I don't know about the Clippers assets, but would Favors, Exum, Allen, + 2 or 3 first round picks get the ball rolling on our end?
If the Clippers landed AD, they could push for Kawhi in the offseason which puts them back towards the top. If we could somehow land Harris to help AD get to the clippers I'd be ecstatic. Gobert, Harris, Ingles, Mitchell and Rubio is a damn good looking starting lineup...

Come back to reality. Any trade involving the Clippers for AD would include Harris going to the Pels.

 

[Keefe]

Mosgov, Ross and a 1st for Conley.

Who says no?

Conley-Fournier-Isaac-Gordon-Vucevic

The Magic want to win now from alive heard and read and he’d help that.

 

[hawkeye]

Come back to reality. Any trade involving the Clippers for AD would include Harris going to the Pels.

Except that losing AD takes any chance of being competitive away for a long time. Pels would want assets to rebuild for the future, not to half *** it for a couple years. Harris is 26 and an UFA so him being the pillar of the trade for the Pels is laughable. IF he actually resigned with them, they wouldn't be relevant until long after his prime is over..

 

[hawkeye]

Only scenario where we land Harris outside of FA. Maybe Exum and a first or salary and a first for our part. NO would have to love SGA and not have any hope of re-signing Harris. A few firsts and SGA, Exum, Expirings... kinda meh.

I think Lakers end up giving 3 or 4 unprotected firsts with their young guys and NO ends the drama and disappears into irrelevance.

If we offered 2 or 3 first round picks and the clippers offered 2 or 3 first round picks, that beats the issue of draft picks. I mean, if first round picks are the main target for the Pels then a Lakers team featuring Lebron and AD shouldn't be that appealing.