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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

The Thriller said:
In all honesty, what’s our window of opportunity here? It seems like some here think that we’re going to sign/draft a team that will all be in their primes next year and will remain with us for a decade.

I’m not sure if I buy into the “conley Is too old” argument. Isn’t our window realistically in 2-3 years? After that, we’ll probably lose at least Gobert or Mitchell.

I’m just worried that conley isn’t enough to warrant the loss of favors and Rubio. If that’s the case, what realistically is the market for one or both of those players? It would be a shame to lose favors for nothing this summer
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Favors has a TO, not a PO. Otherwise, the prices or Ricky, Faves, and a first does feel high.
 
LoPo said:
Detroit is so capped out that they were smart to get two projects on long term deals while also saving a couple million. If they decide to trade their 1st round pick to add to the roster, they know that they still have youth to develop (Svi, Maker, Kennard).
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Blake/Drummond don't have much "long term" ahead of them though
 
Alfalfa said:
I don't see what I want to see. I'm pretty sure I take the cake when it comes to bitching about racism on General Forums.

And what does our alcohol laws have to do with racism?

I can believe that in the 90s or something, some fans were comfortable enough shouting racial slurs. But in this day and age? I don't believe it. People wouldn't ignore it.
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You know, it’s fine that you don’t think Utah hasn’t hurt itself in the eyes of nba players.

But I tend to believe that concerns over racism, being a small market, and having some of the most backwards laws relating to things that matter to most mainstream people in the country probably doesn’t do us any favors.

If the Conley rumors on not wanting to come here are true, I really wouldn’t blame him.

And I think it also lends credence to the concerns I have over our ability to sign young and productive free agents.
 
campaignist said:
No bad contracts. Period. By bad I mean dead weight or bad value. Gallinari is a terrible contract. Barnes is terrible for the money. I’m not sure even Otto Porter is worth the money.
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Why? I mean, where the hell has cap space gotten us? The answer is nowhere.

Let's just say hypothetically, we trade Favors for Biyombo and a future 1st from Charlotte. So we have up to $15 million this summer in cap room because Biyombo makes $17 next year. So freaking what, we still have the 1st and enough cap space to sign the kind of players who want to come to Utah.

If we are going to get a "star" to put next to Gobert and Mitchell, we have to either draft that guy or trade for that guy. Our draft picks suck so we either need more of them or make another perfect pick. Re-treading Favors over and over while staying mediocre is just stupid. Get a future 1st that allows us to get into a trade conversation down the road with the next Tobias Harris type player.
 
Who else, in some sadistic way, would actually like to see Lonzo Ball come to Utah just so Lavar can visit these forums and be able to read how much him and his overrated sons suck in person?
 
I’ve gone to games for 20 years and never heard anything racist, it’s an excuse like Max Hall saying beer was poured on his family.
 
Avery said:
I've normally hated how we've dangled our first round pick away the last few years, but the upcoming draft doesn't excite me. Fine packaging it for a proven commodity.

I would actually love to see us get uber-aggressive and go after someone like Aaron Gordon.
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overall talent level of this year's draft isn't exciting for teams looking for guards/centers. but it is loaded at the forward spot, which fills our needs pretty handily.
 
jom2003 said:
Blake/Drummond don't have much "long term" ahead of them though
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True, but Bullock and Stanley were likely leaving this summer. It was better for capped out Detroit to get something for the long term than end their mediocre season and just watch 2 contributors walk out the door. Regardless of how much better Stanley and Bullock were than Svi and Maker, neither guy was moving the needle. Get the projects, clear some space and move along.
 
LoPo said:
Why? I mean, where the hell has cap space gotten us? The answer is nowhere.

Let's just say hypothetically, we trade Favors for Biyombo and a future 1st from Charlotte. So we have up to $15 million this summer in cap room because Biyombo makes $17 next year. So freaking what, we still have the 1st and enough cap space to sign the kind of players who want to come to Utah.

If we are going to get a "star" to put next to Gobert and Mitchell, we have to either draft that guy or trade for that guy. Our draft picks suck so we either need more of them or make another perfect pick. Re-treading Favors over and over while staying mediocre is just stupid. Get a future 1st that allows us to get into a trade conversation down the road with the next Tobias Harris type player.
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Lacking bad contracts has built the bulk of a playoff team. Favors is a better trade piece than charlottes pick in a bad draft-odds are it’s only a few spots better than ours.
 
The Thriller said:
You know, it’s fine that you don’t think Utah hasn’t hurt itself in the eyes of nba players.

But I tend to believe that concerns over racism, being a small market, and having some of the most backwards laws relating to things that matter to most mainstream people in the country probably doesn’t do us any favors.

If the Conley rumors on not wanting to come here are true, I really wouldn’t blame him.

And I think it also lends credence to the concerns I have over our ability to sign young and productive free agents.
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So you heard a couple of people over the past couple of decades mentioning racism (and one of them in JR Smith, who's a low character drama queen), and you've created a narrative about what NBA players think, and why Conley doesn't want to be here? Oooookay. You do realize most the team's players are black, right? Do you think Mitchell would be going around talking about how wonderful it is being a member of the Jazz if fans were just so racist?

But it does look like you're invested in the story, so I can see it would be pointless discussing it further.
 
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