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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

DL is busy drinking at Gail Miller's book club. The white wine has him trading for Kaminsky and signing Stauskas.
 
Lol WTF is DL doing... Waiting for that "perfect deal" that doesn't really exist. Same $hit every season different a$$hole. Everyone else is getting better, while the Jazz will likely resign Rubio to ~$17/yr and exercise the team option for Favors. LMAO.
 
campaignist said:
I'm not sure, I'm still banking on Toronto. But good lord, for the first time in forever, between Milwaukee, TO, Philly's 4 headed monster, there are 3 teams in the East that can give Golden State a hard time.
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I love the whole pre-season "Boston will sleepwalk through the East and win 60 games" narrative being completely dead. Now they are the plucky underdog again. Second round exit would be pretty great.
 
I'm struggling with two contradictory impulses. On the one hand, I want to trust the Jazz FO and give them the benefit of doubt that they they did all that was reasonable to improve the team but would not allow themselves to be pressured into giving up too much or making an otherwise dumb move. On the other hand, I watch every other team wheeling and dealing to try to improve, adding pieces that the Jazz have previously expressed interest in (e.g., Porter & Mirotic), while the Jazz FO does nothing, in which case, I wonder if the FO is being too cautious and valuing certain players too much, and thus not taking risks to improve the team. (Let's face it, most moves entail risk.)

Here's what I do know/think:

1. Jazz, as currently constituted, are a flawed team that lacks consistent shooting/scoring from key positions, particularly PG and PF.
2. I love Rubio as a person, but he's too inconsistent. I also love Favors as person, but he does nothing to stretch the floor and create spacing. He's a center, not a PF, in today's NBA.
3. Jazz need other relatively high usage player, who can score reasonably efficiently and from distance, to take some of the pressure off Mitchell. Preferably, this player plays either PG or PF.
4. As currently constituted, Jazz ceiling is 2nd round, and most likely, this year, 1st round exit.
5. The narrative that Utah somehow become a desirable free agent destination is a delusion. If we're going to upgrade in any significant way, it will have to be through draft or trades.
5. Jazz need serious upgrading to be competitive in a brutal Western Conference. Staying the course and relying on continuity and/or upgrading at the margins simply won't cut it any more. At some point, barring getting very, very lucky in the draft, the Jazz FO will need to make a significant and risky trade to upgrade.
6. If it's Exum that's holding up a move to upgrade, I'm a bit annoyed. I have no confidence that Exum will ever achieve his potential. His future is replacement level player or slightly above. I am beginning to think that the FO's devotion to him is approaching irrationality status. If he can be moved to achieve a serious upgrade, then for God's sake, move him.

If the Jazz come out of this FA period without making a considered, albeit potentially risky, move to upgrade, I'll be disappointed, and I confess that it will seriously try my faith in the FO and Lindsey. (BTW, I don't consider Dragic a significant upgrade over Rubio.)
 
l Abach l said:
Lol WTF is DL doing... Waiting for that "perfect deal" that doesn't really exist. Same $hit every season different a$$hole. Everyone else is getting better, while the Jazz will likely resign Rubio to ~$17/yr and exercise the team option for Favors. LMAO.
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Jazz have made a deadline trade nearly every season. They already made a trade this season as well.
 
campaignist said:
I mean, do you have any examples besides including Exum for Conley that we could have beaten? Like for Mirotic? I mean keep in mind, some teams might not want Exum's contract either.
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I thought they would have taken a first for mirotic

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This feels like something someone would tweet if they were not being traded in a couple hours. We are bakkking Cakks and making internal improvements and re-acquiring Dante Exum and maintaining flexibility and will be aggressive to make improvements next summer... can being kicked.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Jazz have made a deadline trade nearly every season. They already made a trade this season as well.
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For role players that don't move the needle. Those trades are done by every team every year. When is the last time Utah made a splash trade and took a REAL risk? Never. They're content with being a 5-8 seed because that will fill the stadium, sell tickets, and maintain great TV ratings.
 
l Abach l said:
For role players that don't move the needle. Those trades are done by every team every year. When is the last time Utah made a splash trade and took a REAL risk? Never. They're content with being a 5-8 seed because that will fill the stadium, sell tickets, and maintain great TV ratings.
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So Korver hasn't made the team better? Crowder didn't make the team better?
 
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