2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

[latin jazz]

All of this time I wasted on this thread..

I'm feeling pretty depressed right now. Maybe I just need a break from basketball.

Or a girlfriend

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It’s insane to me that such an intelligent group of minds as the Jazz brass end up:
-having a roster 10 years behind the rest of the league, while they
-let their only two stars drown in help defense
-choking out their own master plan in free agency by committing eight-figures a year to an obvious bust.

Pretty damn risky for them to continue down the road and not get value for him honestly... they must really believe.

 

[jope]

It’s insane to me that such an intelligent group of minds as the Jazz brass end up:
-having a roster 10 years behind the rest of the league, while they
-let their only two stars drown in help defense
-choking out their own master plan in free agency by committing eight-figures a year to an obvious bust.

The only reason i could think of this summer when hearing of Dante's salary was that we needed some mid-level-ish contracts for trades. Now he's seemingly untouchable, yet when healthy barely plays, and isnt healthy very often. Pretty big obstacle to deal with and we did it to ourselves.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

At what cost? Korver and virtually everyone else possible being cut? For the sake of letting mouth-breathing duck-butt crumple into dust when someone touches him?

Exum will be a key reason the Jazz advance in the playoffs.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Exum will be a key reason the Jazz advance in the playoffs.

lol K. I accept your forfeiture.

 

[campaignist]

BUT, the Jazz are in a unique situation with Mitchell in a rookie deal. Bringing in Griffin doesn’t hurt salary wise. It’s like you are paying Griffin 20 million and Mitchell 10.

now that's an interesting point. i wouldn't want to pay an Otto Porter that money, but Griffin and it doesn't risk Mitchell? Possibly.

 

[Sneakers]

The real annoying thing was (i) drafting Tony Bradley and then (ii) him getting hurt this season. Couldn't even put up huge #s in the g-league and pump up his value - bad draft pick (pointless since we have Gobert, Favors and Udoh... who needs 4 true Cs in today's NBA?) and bad luck. I'm meh on Exum and his contract, but having a hard time seeing it as a world ender like all of you mopers

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

What if... we had missed the playoffs last year... like we were a couple games away...

Would we have been as committed to continuity and not addressed our flaws?
Would have had a shot at SGA or Bridges (maybe not though... went a couple picks ahead).

I think our success kind of intoxicated us and helped us not move the direction we probably should have. I fell for it too, so don't blame DL.

 

[RRJazz]

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The real annoying thing was (i) drafting Tony Bradley and then (ii) him getting hurt this season. Couldn't even put up huge #s in the g-league and pump up his value - bad draft pick (pointless since we have Gobert, Favors and Udoh... who needs 4 true Cs in today's NBA?) and bad luck. I'm meh on Exum and his contract, but having a hard time seeing it as a world ender like all of you mopers

Hard to kill DL for a late first round pick miss, but...

Had we gone for Hart, White, or anyone with a little value... that prospect plus our 1st gets us in the neighborhood for Saric or something a little better.

the rationale behind the pick never made sense to me.

 

[stitches]

You act like the Jazz have done this for 5 years in a row.

Jazz spent so many picks trying to get PGs in the past 6 years. They have made moves, big and small.

Jazz are going for the big game in free agency.

Yep, I don't get that panic in this thread.

IMO once it became clear that we don't be able to get Jrue or Conley, I actually preferred that we stay pat. No other player that changed teams this trade deadline changes the fortune of this team(Maybe except for Harris, but come on... 2 firsts, 2 seconds + Shamet for expiring is insane) and in fact taking on most of them, prevents us from pursuing players that might be able to be gamechangers going forward(in FA next summer and/or the summer after).

Now, I am worried about us not being able to utilize the capspace, too... and I too think that failing to utilize it in the next 2 FAs will be a failure. But IMO a bigger failure would have been to waste that capspace on players that doesn't address our biggest needs and at the same time all but eliminate us from addressing them in the following 2 years.

 

[jom2003]

What if... we had missed the playoffs last year... like we were a couple games away...

Would we have been as committed to continuity and not addressed our flaws?
Would have had a shot at SGA or Bridges (maybe not though... went a couple picks ahead).

I think our success kind of intoxicated us and helped us not move the direction we probably should have. I fell for it too, so don't blame DL.

Both Kurucs and Shamet were available at 21... The point is, if you don't have your eyes set on the right guy, it really doesn't matter what position you are drafting...