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Because the team has looked their best this season with the ball in Mitchell’s hands to initiate more.

Ingles too.

Rubio did play well last night, had the exact spark I’d want from a 20 minute bench guard.

I actually don't think Rubio played well. He didn't play horrible though at least. 2-8 for 6 points. Had some steals and hit back to back threes.



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No explaining doesn't equal arguing. I explained to my daughter today why she should clean up her toys. We didn't have an argument.

I had the term cavitation, as it pertains to a piece of equipment I work with, explained to me. No argument occured.



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So someone explained the definitive definition of superstar provided by the NBA encyclopedia and y'all all agreed and moved on? Cuz that's not what I read.
 
************ why are you being this dumb?

The Jazz trade a first round pick for him and THEY STILL HAVE TO PAY THE DUDE.
Just what he was making this year and last. I don't think there is some NBA clause saying that would have to re-sign him this summer or that they would have to over pay if he were already here.

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So someone explained the definitive definition of superstar provided by the NBA encyclopedia and y'all all agreed and moved on? Cuz that's not what I read.
It was thee that was having things explained to him. Take it with a grain of salt. Everyone else was agreeing with the obvious. Superstar level players are always all stars and usually first or second team all NBA. As great as Mitchell is he isn't that yet. I think pretty much every jazz fan can agree with that. Except thee

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Just what he was making this year and last. I don't think there is some NBA clause saying that would have to re-sign him this summer or that they would have to over pay if he were already here.

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Why do you always insert your own premise into an argument that isn't based on that?

The people who want Mirotic and bitxh about not trading for him want to sign him to a long term deal. That is just as easily done by not trading for him.
 
It was thee that was having things explained to him. Take it with a grain of salt. Everyone else was agreeing with the obvious. Superstar level players are always all stars and usually first or second team all NBA. As great as Mitchell is he isn't that yet. I think pretty much every jazz fan can agree with that. Except thee

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Mitchell is a super star.

Super Star isn't about basketball ability or play level. Its the combination of being a NBA star and being a marketing star. Mitchell has his own shoe with a big 2 brand (Adidas/Nike) so he qualifies.
 
Why do you always insert your own premise into an argument that isn't based on that?

The people who want Mirotic and bitxh about not trading for him want to sign him to a long term deal. That is just as easily done by not trading for him.
No. I thought we would have traded for him last year, see how he fits and will be and the play and then make a decision after we have that knowledge. I never thought we should trade for him and then re-sign him no matter what. If it turned out he didn't fit and didn't make us better then let him go. All you lose is a late first which I figured wouldn't help us much. I think I was right. I think Niko would have done more than Grayson. But I didn't think we should certainly re-sign him. Only do that if he is what we wanted him to be.

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Mitchell is a super star.

Super Star isn't about basketball ability or play level. Its the combination of being a NBA star and being a marketing star. Mitchell has his own shoe with a big 2 brand (Adidas/Nike) so he qualifies.
Name me some other super stars that didn't make the all star team and won't be all NBA.

Super star isn't about basketball ability lol.

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There is no way that we could have just absorbed Mirotic's salary. Every Mirotic backer on this board was quite clear that they wanted Mirotic in and Favors gone. Every single one of you. Saying something different now is just revisionism.
No. The trade was 100% a first for Niko. Not favors.
No one, including me and infectuon, wanted to trade a 1st and favors for Niko.

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How many times do we have to go through this?

It hasn't and its easy to look up.

Yes, Rubio did not play well first game back from injury against a starting lineup that had a 6'8 guy as their shortest player.
I guess at some point when your eyes see one thing and you happen to be undefeated when Rubio is out and Mitchell starts at PG then I start to beleive in it more. But I like numbers too so I get you.

I’d personally like to see it because I don’t think Rubio has any long term plan here, and I’d like to know what Mitchell can do down the stretch, would help with free agent plans.

And just because I really do think the offense looks better when he runs it, and we are undefeated when he does. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Just like how what I see from Mitchell in games does not look like a super inefficient low 20’s point scorer. He’s got that certain undefinable quality.

And Rubio lineups often have that certain undefinable stinkiness.
 
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I guess at some point when your eyes see one thing and you happen to be undefeated when Rubio is out and Mitchell starts at PG then I start to beleive in it more. But I like numbers too so I get you.

I’d personally like to see it because I don’t think Rubio has any long term plan here, and I’d like to know what Mitchell can do down the stretch, would help with free agent plans.

And just because I really do think the offense looks better when he runs it, and we are undefeated when he does. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Just like how what I see from Mitchell in games does not look like a super inefficient low 20’s point scorer. He’s got that certain undefinable quality.

And Rubio lineups often have that certain undefinable stinkiness.
Yeah, the thing is I think you have stupid eyes that are subject to recency and confirmation bias.
 
Mitchell is a super star.

Super Star isn't about basketball ability or play level. Its the combination of being a NBA star and being a marketing star. Mitchell has his own shoe with a big 2 brand (Adidas/Nike) so he qualifies.

Every other person who used the word in the history of mankind meant "top tier ability". Not what you said about shoes.
 
And you're being pretty sneaky if you peddle around the "Jazz are 8-0" without Rubio when those games include the Lakers, Bulls, Cavs, Pistons, Magic, and Knicks.
 
Every other person who used the word in the history of mankind meant "top tier ability". Not what you said about shoes.
Nah, not really. Its a a term that comes with a cult of personality. Anything else is just a stupid phrase that is up to extreme interpretation based on what you think constitutes adding "super". Is this Dragon Ball Z? Does their hair turn a new color when they start playing like a Super Star? Is there another level above Super Star where their hair turns blue?

Tim Duncan and Jhin Stockton werent super stars by personal choice.
 
Nah, not really. Its a a term that comes with a cult of personality. Anything else is just a stupid phrase that is up to extreme interpretation based on what you think constitutes adding "super". Is this Dragon Ball Z? Does their hair turn a new color when they start playing like a Super Star? Is there another level above Super Star where their hair turns blue?

Tim Duncan and Jhin Stockton werent super stars by personal choice.

Words mean what people mean they use them. And when people use that word, they mean a tier above an all-star. I don't care if you think it's stupid or if you prefer another definition. Beside you just now, I've never seen it used other than to refer to ability.
 
Words mean what people mean they use them. And when people use that word, they mean a tier above an all-star. I don't care if you think it's stupid or if you prefer another definition. Beside you just now, I've never seen it used other than to refer to ability.
All-Star isn't used to define being a star. Rudy has never been an All-star but you'd be a moron not to call him a star.

If you want to differentiate between tiers of stars, just say top 3/5./10 so your words have actual defined meaning and not some stupid phrase that's used for MARKETING purposes.
 
Nah, not really. Its a a term that comes with a cult of personality. Anything else is just a stupid phrase that is up to extreme interpretation based on what you think constitutes adding "super". Is this Dragon Ball Z? Does their hair turn a new color when they start playing like a Super Star? Is there another level above Super Star where their hair turns blue?

Tim Duncan and Jhin Stockton werent super stars by personal choice.
Duncan was a super star. Everyone agrees.

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All-Star isn't used to define being a star. Rudy has never been an All-star but you'd be a moron not to call him a star.

If you want to differentiate between tiers of stars, just say top 3/5./10 so your words have actual defined meaning and not some stupid phrase that's used for MARKETING purposes.
You are proving your original point about this in fact being an argument since there is apparently more than one idiot that doesn't know what a superstar is, so congrats.
I thought thee was an outlier/exception. I can admit I wrong about that.

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All-Star isn't used to define being a star. Rudy has never been an All-star but you'd be a moron not to call him a star.

If you want to differentiate between tiers of stars, just say top 3/5./10 so your words have actual defined meaning and not some stupid phrase that's used for MARKETING purposes.

I don't disagree with you. I think the whole super star thing is stupid as ****. I'm just saying people use it to refer to what they perceive to be top tier talent.
 
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