Jazz ban 2nd fan for calling Westbrook "boy"

[reignman40]

The fact is that my comment was not malicious and if you had lived with black people in your household for a decade like me, you would understand where I'm coming from. I guess since most people here don't know me and are mostly white, they don't get it. If this site was mostly black and they knew me, they would just laugh at what I posted.

He is to busy being a victim on some else behalf. I wonder how some view a white person doing this...

 

[One Brow]

Maybe you could treat everyone as equal??

Being equal as people doesn't mean we have identical experiences. When I tell a student that they performed a math problem wrong by cancelling from just one term of a numerator, it's because we are not equal at math. I know better than the student when it comes to the math.

None of you, Eenie-Meenie, nor I is the equal of a black person when it comes to describing how to react to racism. I will not treat any of us as such an equal in that particular regard. It would be foolish and ill-considered.

Still, I do love hearing white people whine about how they need to be treated as equals in understanding racism. Feel free to continue there.

Maybe not berate people for being "staggering uninformed". Just because someone grew up somewhere else and in a different culture doesn't make them hateful.

Why would you equate "uninformed" with "hateful"? You have a very unusual view of the world.

 

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The fact is that my comment was not malicious

So? I never claimed it was malicious. It was arrogant, unthinking, ill-considered, and presumptuous, but I would not call it malicious.

and if you had lived with black people in your household for a decade like me, you would understand where I'm coming from. I guess since most people here don't know me and are mostly white, they don't get it. If this site was mostly black and they knew me, they would just laugh at what I posted.

This is also arrogant, unthinking, ill-considered, and presumptuous. I still would not call it malicious.

 

[Gameface]

With such gold as the last few pages of this thread there is no way i could stay away.

 

[Getting Traded]

So? I never claimed it was malicious. It was arrogant, unthinking, ill-considered, and presumptuous, but I would not call it malicious.



This is also arrogant, unthinking, ill-considered, and presumptuous. I still would not call it malicious.

Okay Time out. None of these people are black. Typically the word black refers to sub-Saharan Africans in modern usage. And not North Africans, who have different phenotypes. Please stop copying and pasting without understanding.

More importantly, everyone is mixed with everyone else. Of course the people of Carthage have sub-Saharan blood in them. Mainland Africa --> Ethiopia --> Yemen --> Arabia --> Levant. Give me the rest of your lineage, and I'll find you some link to any major group of people on Earth. Then there's the history of slavery in the US.

More more importantly, do you understand how genetic profiles work? They gather samples from all over the globe, and see how your sample compare to them statistically. There is no gene that defines any race group. And no scientific definition for what a race even is.

So those genes that caused a statistical hit in your case could've been from anywhere, or nowhere. Your speculation about Sicily is not very substantive.

Whatever the case, this is way off the topic. You are right we all are a mixture, which is why this obsession with race in America is so ignorant. I remember reading a book many years ago, "Man's Greatest Myth Race," Ashley Montagu, who showed through great detail that while there were differences among races, they did not add up to superiority of one over the other. That also is why this eruption over a stupid, silly comment I made that had no racist intent just shows how ignorant this whole thing is, and how insecure people are about who they are. Yet because people harbor animosity towards me over other things, they jump on me like vultures. This is something that I complained about a long time ago, the hostility that developed on here and still reigns. I agree the comment was in bad taste, but that doesn't mean I'm racist or an evil person, or hate black people. Actually, it's quite the reverse. I didn't call Westbrook boy or use the N-word. I actually was being sarcastic about the Negs, which people want to resume because of the hostility that is inside them, the hostility that is actually so rampant in our country with this obsession with guns and our history of militarism and genocide and slavery. And it works both ways. Hate begets hate. When people stop hating on each other, then the racism will end, and the wars, and the subjugation of people. I need a vacation from this site because of the poisonous people, not all, but some, who are on here.

 

[Gameface]

Whatever the case, this is way off the topic. You are right we all are a mixture, which is why this obsession with race in America is so ignorant. I remember reading a book many years ago, "Man's Greatest Myth Race," Ashley Montagu, who showed through great detail that while there were differences among races, they did not add up to superiority of one over the other. That also is why this eruption over a stupid, silly comment I made that had no racist intent just shows how ignorant this whole thing is, and how insecure people are about who they are. Yet because people harbor animosity towards me over other things, they jump on me like vultures. This is something that I complained about a long time ago, the hostility that developed on here and still reigns. I agree the comment was in bad taste, but that doesn't mean I'm racist or an evil person, or hate black people. Actually, it's quite the reverse. I didn't call Westbrook boy or use the N-word. I actually was being sarcastic about the Negs, which people want to resume because of the hostility that is inside them, the hostility that is actually so rampant in our country with this obsession with guns and our history of militarism and genocide and slavery. And it works both ways. Hate begets hate. When people stop hating on each other, then the racism will end, and the wars, and the subjugation of people. I need a vacation from this site because of the poisonous people, not all, but some, who are on here.

I think you missed the part where it is virtually impossible to definitively define what "race" means within the greater human race. "Black" is not a race, nor is "white," those are concepts that for one have changed significantly over time, but also have no actual genetic definition. So when you cite Ashley Montagu and say that there are differences among races, you are not saying anything more significant than there are differences between individuals, as you cannot neatly assign people into a certain race.

 

[Getting Traded]

I think you missed the part where it is virtually impossible to definitively define what "race" means within the greater human race. "Black" is not a race, nor is "white," those are concepts that for one have changed significantly over time, but also have no actual genetic definition. So when you cite Ashley Montagu and say that there are differences among races, you are not saying anything more significant than there are differences between individuals, as you cannot neatly assign people into a certain race.

True, the whole thing for me is that I don't judge people for their race but who they are as individuals. We all have our talents. Sure I shouldn't have made that comment, but it's not right for some people here to jump on me so viciously for having misspoken.

 

[Gameface]

True, the whole thing for me is that I don't judge people for their race but who they are as individuals. We all have our talents. Sure I shouldn't have made that comment, but it's not right for some people here to jump on me so viciously for having misspoken.

I'm just going to be straight with you. You worry WAY too much about how people react to you for someone who posts the **** you post.

 

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With such gold as the last few pages of this thread there is no way i could stay away.

It seems to be dying off now, which is a relief to me.

 

[Stoked]

It seems to be dying off now, which is a relief to me.

That’s disappointing

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

I have NEVER used the "N" word in my life to describe a black person! I have NEVER called a black man "boy" to describe him either! I have used the expression "Hopper" or "Hip hop" to describe the STYLE of play that lots of blacks players engaged in...but it's not limited to just black guys! I don't think that makes me a "racist buffoon!"

C'mon CJ, we all know that "Hopper" is code word in your case. There are many ways to say the N word without actually saying the N word. You have a long voluminous history of posts indicating that your views on African Americans are not of the "enlightened" variety.

 

[Deleted member 95]

@mods. Please move this to general. Thank you.