Will You Accept the Findings of the Muller Probe?

[silesian]

Hello bubble heads. What world do you live in?

Hillary's reasons for using a private server..... on official SD business.... was to evade the FOIA law. It is illegal to do that. A crime..

What evidence do you have that this was her reason? Because I'm sure you could prove it in a court of law.

You do realize that Trump's using unsecured smart phone puts our security at much higher risk than anythin HRC did. So let's not pretend the email outrage is about anything more than politics.

And, by the way, I am pissed at HRC for what she did. But the way it has been portrayed and politically played is just dumb.

 

[babe]

Well, any open conflict with Iran would deserve its own thread, but since I called this in this thread, and since authoritarians sometimes rally support, as well as deflect attention from domestic problems, through conflicts abroad, might as well point out this little news item:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/05/politics/iran-carrier-bomber-task-force/index.html

"In a written statement released by the White House, Bolton said the US was deploying the USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group and a bomber task force to the US Central Command region in the Middle East "to send a clear and unmistakable message to the Iranian regime that any attack on United States interests or on those of our allies will be met with unrelenting force."

"We will hold the Iranians accountable for attacks on American interests. And the fact that ... if those actions take place, if they do by some third-party proxy, a Shiite militia group, the Houthis or Hezbollah, we will hold the Iranian leadership directly accountable for that," said Pompeo.

https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion...0190506-hujcpw2tcvenrdwjjtnqdcm6a4-story.html

Red, Iran has been there a long time.

Most Iranians don't like their government, and call it "authoritarian". And their country "Persia" and their language "Persian". It is impossibly diverse, and has not had a government that was not "authoritarian" in all it's history. But a huge majority want "democracy", and would be willing to join a revolution to achieve it.

The Iranian government has support from Russia and China, and Cuba and North Korea. With Venezuela, it is the "playground" of world interests seeking to build a new oil cartel to counter the BP/Shell/Standard Oil kingdom that has Saudia allegiance.

Fair enough to say we've fought wars over oil for a long time.

The great movers and shakers of the world, aka CFR/UN Rockefeller assets, have been scheming for a great mid-East War, sometimes referred to as WWIII, ever since the VietNam war wound down. Well, since WWII.

I worry about Trumps little circle of generals. Not so different from Obamas. Not so different from those who would have been Hillary's little circle. Lots of "MIC" influence there.

Obama actually was building up Iran.... well, trying to outdo the Russians and Chinese in supporting the Iranian authoritarian government. But Obama as well as Hillary had no intention of preventing the grand war their generals were planning.

If we don't get that war going during Trumps administration, it will only be because nobody owns Trump so securely they can be confident of the outcome of that grand war.

 

[babe]

Spot on. I think I'm the one who brought it up. So for NPC, I have new words to study: "auto erotic asphyxiation." Please study, practice, and report back.

obviously, that is how you've developed your intellect.

 

[Harambe]

obviously, that is how you've developed your intellect.

Any is better than none.

 

[babe]

What evidence do you have that this was her reason? Because I'm sure you could prove it in a court of law.

Because the law is there for that reason.... to make sure our politicians can't pull a bunch of crap we can never know about.

The only way anyone can evade the law is to break it. In the FOIA-accessible inventory of American government information, everything will become accessible someday.

Obama and a lot of foreign folks had her "private" email and used it. For important business.

 

[silesian]

obviously, that is how you've developed your intellect.

You ought to give something a try. Anything is better than what you have been doing. Good luck!

 

[silesian]

Because the law is there for that reason.... to make sure our politicians can't pull a bunch of crap we can never know about.

The only way anyone can evade the law is to break it. In the FOIA-accessible inventory of American government information, everything will become accessible someday.

Obama and a lot of foreign folks had her "private" email and used it. For important business.

I asked you how you know that was her reason. Please answer and stop deflecting. Because I know you wouldn't be completely speculating about what is in her mind. That would be disingenuous.

 

[babe]

Any is better than none.

No. There are worse forms of intellect than none at all.

Progressive delusions and delusions of political grandeur and power among them.

 

[fishonjazz]

Well her illegality is pretty similar to Trump's. You now, can't exactly prove enough to indict.

Nah. If Clinton would have obstructed the investigation like Trump did then she would have been prosecuted. So would Trump if he weren't president.
With Trump you CAN prove enough to indict, at least according to 379 lawyers, what you can't do is prosecute a sitting president in this case unfortunately

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[fishonjazz]

Well never know because she deleted thousands (according to the FBI) of state Dept emails before turning over the curated set she gave the doj.

Point is you were in essence blaming the Russians for uncovering her email problem rather than acknowledging that maybe she should have been following state department protocol in the first place. Hard to uncover wrongdoing if there isn't any wrongdoing. Hence blaming the ones who outed rather than the one who did the bad thing.

From what I remember she didn't delete the emails. The emails were deleted though. Just not by her. I could be wrong though. I think @Bulletproof knows better than me.

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[babe]

I asked you how you know that was her reason. Please answer and stop deflecting. Because I know you wouldn't be completely speculating about what is in her mind. That would be disingenuous.

Hillary has been quite direct about her belief in open borders and one world governance, and has directly stated her contempt for Americans such as Judicial Watch, who are the most effective users of FOIA procedures. She mocked initial charges of her crime.
How anyone can believe she didn't know what she was doing, or had no purpose behind it, is astonishing. You have to be solidly on that "team" to not want it prosecuted.

 

[silesian]

Hillary has been quite direct about her belief in open borders and one world governance, and has directly stated her contempt for Americans such as Judicial Watch, who are the most effective users of FOIA procedures. She mocked initial charges of her crime.
How anyone can believe she didn't know what she was doing, or had no purpose behind it, is astonishing. You have to be solidly on that "team" to not want it prosecuted.

Sigh. Smile. Sigh.

I'm on team truth. I dislike HRC quite a bit and oppose most of her policies. I'm a fiscal-conservative/ free-market-capitalist/ small-government/ rule-of-law quasi-libertarian. So keep spouting nonsense about what "team" I'm on, and further proving your ignorance. I'm not on the team of mouth breathers that mindlessly follow Trump. Read Bill Crystal, George Will, and David Brooks, they are on my team.

And you still have not answered my very simple question so I assume that you are making **** up.

Have a good day.

smile. sigh. smile.

 

[Harambe]

Nah. If Clinton would have obstructed the investigation like Trump did then she would have been prosecuted. So would Trump if he weren't president.
With Trump you CAN prove enough to indict, at least according to 379 lawyers, what you can't do is prosecute a sitting president in this case unfortunately

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I thought it was 379 former federal prosecutors. Federal Prosecutors = Lawyer, not all Lawyer = Federal Prosecutor. Difference seems to be obvious; "I think we can do this" vs "I have been a part of similar"

 

[LogGrad98]

From what I remember she didn't delete the emails. The emails were deleted though. Just not by her. I could be wrong though. I think @Bulletproof knows better than me.

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I was reading about this on politifact and it is unclear who made the decision to delete. Point is evidence was removed, actually destroyed, but no one was up in arms except the conservatives. The liberals were all fine with it.

My point was not the emails. My point was the rampant hypocrisy on both sides of the aisle. If it's my guy, well you know he is being misrepresented and is the victim. If it's the other guy we just need a rope. This is symptomatic of the current deep divide when no one can look at things objectively or even attempt to come to any level of agreement or consensus. This thread is a great example. Several folks across the aisle from each other repeatedly bashing their faces against a wall, unable to even concede that the other guy might have a minor point. Smugness, contempt, and condescension is de rigueur. It's destructive to the republic imo. Is Trump the one who will fiddle while Washington burns?

 

[Hotdog]

Here is some news about the Muller report. Its a trusted source because there is no bias in news. Especially the national kind.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuc...y-want-to-divert-attention-from-obamas-spying

 

[Harambe]

Here is some news about the Muller report. Its a trusted source because there is no bias in news. Especially the national kind.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuc...y-want-to-divert-attention-from-obamas-spying

The same reason no one will click that is the same reason you won't click on CNN or MSNBC. Nice logic, buddy.

 

[The Thriller]

Nah. If Clinton would have obstructed the investigation like Trump did then she would have been prosecuted. So would Trump if he weren't president.
With Trump you CAN prove enough to indict, at least according to 379 lawyers, what you can't do is prosecute a sitting president in this case unfortunately

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It’s over 500 now

 

[The Thriller]

I too remember the obama administration refusing to hand over anything related to Benghazi or Clinton’s email server. This is exactly how checks and balances work. The legislative requests information. The executive tells the legislative to go pound sand. But you know... both sides are equal. Both sides are equally to blame. And have you seen the latest job report?! Wow!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...106bc6-70de-11e9-8be0-ca575670e91c_story.html

 

[babe]

Here is some news about the Muller report. Its a trusted source because there is no bias in news. Especially the national kind.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuc...y-want-to-divert-attention-from-obamas-spying

Am I the only one who can see the humor in your bland assertion that national media can be trusted implicitly???? Pretty sure you meant to poke at the folks who come in here with CNN or Compost articles like they're written by the finger of God on some remote desert mountaintop, entirely objective and omniscient.

well, if no one else can see your humor, I do.

 

[babe]

I too remember the obama administration refusing to hand over anything related to Benghazi or Clinton’s email server. This is excerpt how checks and balances work. The legislative requests information. The executive tells the legislative to go pound sand. But you know... both sides are equal. Both sides are equally to blame. And have you seen the latest job report?! Wow!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...106bc6-70de-11e9-8be0-ca575670e91c_story.html

"real" conservatives are bailing on Trump because he's caving on important issues, but the RINOs still want to run Romney next year as their flag carrier. But he's picking up the center because of the jobs.

Xi apparently believed Trump would come back from the midterms willing to cave. So did Putin and the NK whatshisname.

But no to all. Trump is not a party man nor an ideologue. He wants to build stuff. He is getting massive political cash support from little America.