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Jazz Decades Semifinals Voting: Cyrone Torbin vs. prodigy

Vote for the winner

  • Cyrone Torbin

    Votes: 4 16.7%

  • prodigy

    Votes: 20 83.3%
  • Total voters
    24
  • Poll closed .
prodigy

prodigy

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vote for the team you think would win in a playoff matchup

Cyrone Torbin
Pg: Chris Paul (10's) / D. Wade (00's)
SG: D.Wade (00's) / Jeff Malone (90's Jazz) / G. Hayward (10's Jazz)
SF: J. Sloan (70's) / John Drew (80's Jazz) / G. Hayward (10's Jazz)
PF: Moses Malone (80's) / Spencer Haywood (70's Jazz)
C: David Robinson (90's) / M. Okur (00's Jazz)

vs.

prodigy
PG- Magic Johnson(80's NBA), Steve Nash(00's NBA)
SG- Gail Goodrich(70's Jazz), Wesley Matthews(10's Jazz)
SF- Kevin Durant(10's NBA), Ty Corbin(90's Jazz)
PF- Elvin Hayes(70's NBA), Carlos Boozer(00's Jazz)
C- Hakeem Olajuwon(90's NBA), Ben Poquette(80's Jazz)
 
Both teams with two starting centers showdown.

Individual:
Johnson > Paul
Goodrich < Wade
Durant > Sloan
Hayes< Malone
Olajuwon > Robinson https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=olajuha01&p2=robinda01 (but their H2H stats are damn close,especially considering Robinson took 6 less shots per game).

I think my bench owns his bench. I think my team is overall a better defensive squad.

Wish I could have found Hayes vs Malone stats, but NBA Reference doesn't have them.
 
Prodigy has a huge starting 5. I'm sure that has been mentioned, but I just had to say it myself. I think it's fairly close .. and I agree regarding Olajuwon > Robinson.
 
Yeah, the Johnson/Durant are both over-sized at their positions. We are equally sized in the front court though. Paul/Wade would have a considerable speed advantage in the break over Johnson/Goodrich. I know people are probably gawking at Durant vs Sloan, but Tony Allen (who is a tough/in your face defender like Sloan), did a very good job frustrating Durant in the playoffs this year. Allen is 6-4 too.
 
I'm going to assume that the 33-35 year old Goodrich would have a difficult time staying in front of the speedy Paul though.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Both teams with two starting centers showdown.

Individual:
Johnson > Paul
Goodrich < Wade
Durant > Sloan
Hayes< Malone
Olajuwon > Robinson https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=olajuha01&p2=robinda01 (but their H2H stats are damn close,especially considering Robinson took 6 less shots per game).

I think my bench owns his bench. I think my team is overall a better defensive squad.

Wish I could have found Hayes vs Malone stats, but NBA Reference doesn't have them.
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How does your bench own his bench?

Quite the contrary in my opinion.

Nash>>>>>>>>>>>than any bench player you have the best of whom is likely Malone
Boozer > Okur or your second best bench player
Corbin and Matthews >> than Drew imo
 
SalmonHobo said:
How does your bench own his bench?

Quite the contrary in my opinion.

Nash>>>>>>>>>>>than any bench player you have the best of whom is likely Malone
Boozer > Okur or your second best bench player
Corbin and Matthews >> than Drew imo
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First of all, you have to take into account how bench players get used.

Okur > Boozer in a bench role. Come off the bench and pull out one of his big men from the paint. I don't see what Boozer brings to a team. He gets shutdown against Joel ANthony and Chris Bosh.
Drew > Matthews and Corbin. Drew's role for the Jazz was actually being a scorer off the bench, and he was pretty good at it. 21 ppg in 27 mpg is pretty explosive scoring.
Yeah, Nash is great, but I dont think he swings the bench completely in Prodigy's favor.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
First of all, you have to take into account how bench players get used.

Okur > Boozer in a bench role. Come off the bench and pull out one of his big men from the paint. I don't see what Boozer brings to a team. He gets shutdown against Joel ANthony and Chris Bosh.
Drew > Matthews and Corbin. Drew's role for the Jazz was actually being a scorer off the bench, and he was pretty good at it. 21 ppg in 27 mpg is pretty explosive scoring.
Yeah, Nash is great, but I dont think he swings the bench completely in Prodigy's favor.
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I'd give you Drew but you're totally rationalizing your assessment of Okur over Boozer.

I'd rank bench players as 1. Nash 2. Malone 3. Boozer 4. Drew 5. Okur 6. Corbin 7. Matthews 8 Hayward 9. Poquette 10. Haywood


26-29...lower score, prodigy, wins...and nash is so far and away greater than #2 Malone, the difference of play on the court would be even greater.
 
SalmonHobo said:
I'd give you Drew but you're totally rationalizing your assessment of Okur over Boozer.

I'd rank bench players as 1. Nash 2. Malone 3. Boozer 4. Drew 5. Okur 6. Corbin 7. Matthews 8 Hayward 9. Poquette 10. Haywood


26-29...lower score, prodigy, wins...and nash is so far and away greater than #2 Malone, the difference of play on the court would be even greater.
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Check Haywood's stats bro. 24 ppg, 9.6 rpg 1.6 bpg
 
SalmonHobo said:
For the decade? Oh no, that's right. For 30+ games.
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Yes, we picked the Jazz 70's and he was the player I chose for his career with the Jazz. If you want to add the rest of the year he spent with the Knicks, be my guest. He would still be a 20 and 8 PF/C coming off the bench. Don't be bitter because you didn't pick him.
 
Actuall, **** it. Add the whole damn decade of his play in the 70's if you want. Dude put up stats
 
In the spirit of absolute fairness, I would like to point out that the one time Hakeem and Robinson faced each other in the playoffs, Hakeem absolutely raped Robinson (95', their championship year).

Hakeem averaged 35 and 12 that series, while shooting 56% with 4 blocks and 5 assist per game.

Robinson didn't do terrible. He had 24,11, 2.7 assist, 2.2 blocks. Hakeem and company did hold him to an impressive 45% from the field though, but he managed to get to the line 12 times a game (compared to Hakeem's 5 per game)

It's is important to note that Hakeem took 10 more shots per game. Hakeem is definitely the boss's sauce though.

Also, how the hell did they only have one playoff series against each other?
 
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