How white liberals view black voters

[Hotdog]

He deserved all of it.

My moral superiority is well intact.

I'm not a good person. I'm a great person.

You, on the other hand... well, you kind of suck as a person.

Lmao.

You think you got an insincere apology over nothing really, and that equates to laughing about and being glad about someone's loved one's death.

Yet, Ive seen your fake moral superiority come out over murders getting the death penalty.

So murder someone and gameface will stick for you and fight for your life. Give an insincere apology related to nothing important, and the people just related to you deserve the death penalty.

Riiiiigght bro. Thats so consistent with being moral person.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

You mean, your point of trying to obscure reality, rather than clarify it?



Harris and Klobuchar are moderate enough that they get support from various conservative never-Trumpers. In any other Western democracy, they would be right-leaning.



Manchin is a right-leaning Democrat, of the sort that were called Blue Dog Democrats a few years ago.

I think it's clear that you and I live in very different realities because what you are saying doesn't resonate as true to me at all. Based on my understanding of the policies that Harris and Klobuchar support I would not consider them moderate and would not vote for them. To me both are well to the left of Obama, and I don't consider Obama moderate. I have a feeling that when it came time to vote, regardless of what people are saying now, a large percentage of Americans would fall into the same category that I do. If the most important thing to the Democrats is beating Trump then their best shot would be to support what you prefer to call a right leaning Democrat, which is exactly how I would define a moderate Democrat (just as, IMO, a left leaning Republican is a moderate Republican).

 

[Gameface]

Lmao.

You think you got an insincere apology over nothing really, and that equates to laughing about and being glad about someone's loved one's death.

Yet, Ive seen your fake moral superiority come out over murders getting the death penalty.

So murder someone and gameface will stick for you and fight for your life. Give an insincere apology related to nothing important, and the people just related to you deserve the death penalty.

Riiiiigght bro. Thats so consistent with being moral person.

So you've never understood anything I've said about my opposition to the death penalty? Figures. You're not very good at understanding things.

 

[One Brow]

I think it's clear that you and I live in very different realities because what you are saying doesn't resonate as true to me at all.

I'm good with that. While I don't mind going over the basis for my beliefs with those inclined to discuss them seriously (as you do from time to time), I don't expect everyone to adopt them. Humans are controlled by our feelings, and we rationalize the world around us to fit into them, most of the time.

Based on my understanding of the policies that Harris and Klobuchar support I would not consider them moderate and would not vote for them. To me both are well to the left of Obama, and I don't consider Obama moderate.

Obama's signature policy, the ACA, was one of the most moderate and corporatist ways to get more people health care. If you think of our former deporter-in-chief as anything other than the usual moderate, corporate-owned, PWPBP Democrat, your vision is skewed heavily.

So, why to you think Harris/Klobuchar are to the left of Obama? What are their specific policy proposals that put them there?

I have a feeling that when it came time to vote, regardless of what people are saying now, a large percentage of Americans would fall into the same category that I do. If the most important thing to the Democrats is beating Trump then their best shot would be to support what you prefer to call a right leaning Democrat, which is exactly how I would define a moderate Democrat (just as, IMO, a left leaning Republican is a moderate Republican).

The difference between a moderate Democrat and a right-leaning Democrat would be things like de-empahsizing climate science, sexual harrassment, and not supporting the ACA. When I say Manchin is a right-leaning Democrat, I meant that he's further to the right than a moderate Republican (and he is, on many issues).

 

[Hotdog]

So you've never understood anything I've said about my opposition to the death penalty? Figures. You're not very good at understanding things.

Nah. I think I remember pretty well what your opposition is. I expressed my view that Im for the death penalty for cold blooded murderers. You proceeded to call out my morality, call me disgusting, scoff at me for holding such a view, etc... I remember pretty well you having a problem with killing a murderer.

I am just pointing out the contradiction in your beliefs. You find it appalling to give the death penalty to a murderer, but think its a really good thing for someone's innocent loved ones to be dead. (over an apology no less)

Either be that guy who is completely inconsiderate of other people, or be that SJW you pretend to be. But dont be both. They dont go together.

You certainly dont get to claim any moral authority over me or anyone here ever again. You have proven who you really are with those horrible things you said. No good person wishes death on innocent people.

 

[Stoked]

Nah. I think I remember pretty well what your opposition is. I expressed my view that Im for the death penalty for cold blooded murderers. You proceeded to call out my morality, call me disgusting, scoff at me for holding such a view, etc... I remember pretty well you having a problem with killing a murderer.

I am just pointing out the contradiction in your beliefs. You find it appalling to give the death penalty to a murderer, but think its a really good thing for someone's innocent loved ones to be dead. (over an apology no less)

Either be that guy who is completely inconsiderate of other people, or be that SJW you pretend to be. But dont be both. They dont go together.

You certainly dont get to claim any moral authority over me or anyone here ever again. You have proven who you really are with those horrible things you said. No good person wishes death on innocent people.

It’s almost like you’re describing a person that can see nuance. Someone who can see not all scenarios are similar and as such shouldn’t have the same response.

 

[Gameface]

Nah. I think I remember pretty well what your opposition is. I expressed my view that Im for the death penalty for cold blooded murderers. You proceeded to call out my morality, call me disgusting, scoff at me for holding such a view, etc... I remember pretty well you having a problem with killing a murderer.

I am just pointing out the contradiction in your beliefs. You find it appalling to give the death penalty to a murderer, but think its a really good thing for someone's innocent loved ones to be dead. (over an apology no less)

Either be that guy who is completely inconsiderate of other people, or be that SJW you pretend to be. But dont be both. They dont go together.

You certainly dont get to claim any moral authority over me or anyone here ever again. You have proven who you really are with those horrible things you said. No good person wishes death on innocent people.

I absolutely never did what you describe in your first line.

I don't think there's anything wrong with a murderer being killed, don't feel sorry for them, don't think it's an immoral punishment. I also never called out your morality for supporting the death penalty. If you can show otherwise please do, otherwise this is about the third time in the last couple weeks where you have SIGNIFICANTLY misrepresented things I've said.

So in short, you have no idea why I oppose the death penalty.

 

[Gameface]

And Jazzrule tried to use sympathy for his parents deaths as a weapon in an argument. I was tasteless and what I said was offensive, but what I did was throw that BS back in his face. You can continue to beat that subject against me like it's your ace in the hole, fair enough. But to use it to say things like I'm happy when police get shot, or that I called out your morality over the death penalty, you're a liar.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

It’s almost like you’re describing a person that can see nuance. Someone who can see not all scenarios are similar and as such shouldn’t have the same response.

Wishing death on someone's loved ones over a difference of opinion is a pretty twisted nuance.

 

[Stoked]

Wishing death on someone's loved ones over a difference of opinion is a pretty twisted nuance.

One I called him out on. The first to do so I might add.

But posts don’t exist in a vacuum. I’ll put @Gameface history up against @NPC D4617 any day. Even with that despicable post.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

One I called him out on. The first to do so I might add.

But posts don’t exist in a vacuum. I’ll put @Gameface history up against @NPC D4617 any day. Even with that despicable post.

Gameface has a history of posts like that. It was not a one-time thing.

 

[Stoked]

Gameface has a history of posts like that. It was not a one-time thing.

Nothing else quite that bad. But he has lost his cool on occasion.

And I repeat, I’ll take his history over DNP or whatever his stupid name is 10/10