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fishonjazz said:
Lol what a dumb article. Ostertag is literrally my least favorite jazz player of all time. All of my favorite jazz players are black dudes other than stockton who is probably only around 5th on my favorite jazz players of all time list.

That article is ****ing racist


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Mitchell is my favorite player since Stockton by miles. It's about heart, drive, talent and determination to be great for me, not skin color.
 
It’s just someone’s attempt for attention. It might get some bites outside of Jazz fans who know better.

The bulk of my favorite players are not white which has to be the case for most fans as most players are not white.

Get that trash outta here.
 
Wayne_Kenoff said:
Did anyone read the Utah Jazz article on Realgm? Implied that Jazz fans only like white players, while at the same time insulting Mark Eaton (as a low bar). It focused on Ostertag, and missed a lot regarding our disappointment of him. He had the ability to be so much more until the physical altercation with Shaq.

https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/255404/Thirty-Histories-Utah-Jazz

A blurb:

But if Greg Ostertag is remarkable, it is for representing the stark limits of Jazz fans’ capacity to appreciate players who looked like them. They wanted him to be Mark Eaton, and they would have exalted him had he cleared that relatively low bar, but instead he was a source of frustration and disappointment.
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I didnt get that he implied Utah only likes white players, just that Utah likes their white players more.

I think the article is dumb because I think anyone who acts like Ostertag was some big disappointment is dumb. Dude was about as good as he should have been. Should he been in better shape? Yeah, but I dont think that would have made him that much better. More than anything it would have elongated his average career.

I just dont get how you write about the Jazz and choose such a boring topic where you bring nothing interesting to the article.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I didnt get that he implied Utah only likes white players, just that Utah likes their white players more.

I think the article is dumb because I think anyone who acts like Ostertag was some big disappointment is dumb. Dude was about as good as he should have been. Should he been in better shape? Yeah, but I dont think that would have made him that much better. More than anything it would have elongated his average career.

I just dont get how you write about the Jazz and choose such a boring topic where you bring nothing interesting to the article.
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The editor told me that "Fans everywhere often become more fond of players who look like them". A very weird statement. I like players that are good, and play for the team. I agree, I mis-wrote that it said they only like white players, but it implies that we like our white players, because we Jazz fans are white (so I guess it implies we like black players less). It is a shortsighted statement. Even more shortsighted was the jab against Mark Eaton. Dude was an amazing player.
 
Jazz Spazz said:
Thank you for asking. I do like both. I think both contain Jazz deoxyribonucleic acid. I think Bojan will be a fan avatar and not only because he looks like one, but because he makes lots of shots. I like BoJingles. That means Bojan and Ingles combined into one word. Clever, no?
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How about Bingles... or Boingles?
 
Wayne_Kenoff said:
The editor told me that "Fans everywhere often become more fond of players who look like them". A very weird statement. I like players that are good, and play for the team. I agree, I mis-wrote that it said they only like white players, but it implies that we like our white players, because we Jazz fans are white (so I guess it implies we like black players less). It is a shortsighted statement. Even more shortsighted was the jab against Mark Eaton. Dude was an amazing player.
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Pretty much. It looks like this series of articles picks one random piece of team history and ruminate on it. Why you'd pick Ostertag for the Jazz is a bit of an odd choice.

As for the Utah likes white players more angle, we can look at the difference between our fan bases support for Gordon Hayward and Donovan Mitchell to put that safely to bed.
 
Wayne_Kenoff said:
The editor told me that "Fans everywhere often become more fond of players who look like them". A very weird statement. I like players that are good, and play for the team. I agree, I mis-wrote that it said they only like white players, but it implies that we like our white players, because we Jazz fans are white (so I guess it implies we like black players less). It is a shortsighted statement. Even more shortsighted was the jab against Mark Eaton. Dude was an amazing player.
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It's not shortsighted. It's probably backed by market research. People like people who look like them, especially if it's a field where they are a minority.

If Mark Eaton was an amazing player, the Jazz should have been a much better team than they where.
 
Wayne_Kenoff said:
Did anyone read the Utah Jazz article on Realgm? Implied that Jazz fans only like white players, while at the same time insulting Mark Eaton (as a low bar). It focused on Ostertag, and missed a lot regarding our disappointment of him. He had the ability to be so much more until the physical altercation with Shaq.

https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/255404/Thirty-Histories-Utah-Jazz

A blurb:

But if Greg Ostertag is remarkable, it is for representing the stark limits of Jazz fans’ capacity to appreciate players who looked like them. They wanted him to be Mark Eaton, and they would have exalted him had he cleared that relatively low bar, but instead he was a source of frustration and disappointment.
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I just created a new thread about this. Didn't see yours. Yeah, it's a pretty stupid, racist and pointless article.
 
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