Go Warren!

[LogGrad98]

The degree of pain you experience will be directly correlated to the degree you rely on your privilege and invest in it, when said privilege is diminished. Should we forbid gay marriages because it causes hypothetical you (not the real you, I'm aware) pain to see two men married?

There is a difference, imo, between the hypothetical "pain" caused by something that doesn't directly affect an individual, such a allowing gay marriage, and that caused by directly attacking part of that individual's identity, such as denigrating someone's religion.

 

[One Brow]

There is a difference, imo, between the hypothetical "pain" caused by something that doesn't directly affect an individual, such a allowing gay marriage, and that caused by directly attacking part of that individual's identity, such as denigrating someone's religion.

You may see this distinction. Many people who think of gay marriage as an affront to God seem to miss this distinction. They see allowing gay marriage as an attack on them.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

I don't want anyone to feel pain. Like I said before, what's your personal code of ethics? Apparently, for you, I, for example, as a white male, somewhat religious, deserve to be caused pain because I'm in a position of privilege. Apparently I'm the entire problem so any pain I personally experience in such a regard is well-deserved. Right?

World don't work that way.

You (we're talking the all encompassing you) caused people pain because of religious beliefs, easy example being the systemic discrimination and denial of certain rights (marital for one) of homosexual people. Calling you out and removing that systemic discrimination and denial of certain right on that is apparently painful for you (religious freedom)

Your code of ethics say that gay males deserve to be caused pain.

This is one example of many that can be brought up.

I, personally, will choose to not care if pain is caused an individual in the type of sense this thread has been going with if that pain is felt because that individual can't deny another individuals unalienable rights, among them life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which in the example I provided, would be systemic discrimination and denial of certain rights of homosexual people.