Jeff Green has been waived

[oneye]

You'd never hear that being said about guys like Kobe.

Also, this is a huge part of being a leader. I get DM is 23, and watched Jeff Green play as a kid.....and I'm sure Jeff is a really nice guy and that's great. But Karl also probably thought Ostertag was a nice guy but still correctly called him a lazy fat *** when he showed up to work out of shape. Donovan and Rudy need to hold their teammates to a greater standard than just being a nice guy. If he was such a great teammate he wouldn't have been continually getting beat on backdoor screens, giving no effort on defense, and leaving the starters with an absolute mess after not giving a **** during his minutes most the time.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I’m still having some trouble giving this positive spin. Green was not worse than Niang or Davis. We have **** for 4s and he was the closest thing we had to one. He had to have asked out. That’s bad.

And how is adding two combo guards an answer to this?

 

[oneye]

I'm also wondering how this might affect team chemistry. Everyone was saying that Donovan was gassed last night, but it looked like something was bothering him in the fourth quarter. Maybe he had learned that they waived Green and that was it. Also, the Conley factor. Green and him are friends, and Mike is turning into another Exum. Maybe we have decided to tank? In any case, unless Green asked to be released, this sounds like a rash decision.

Lol no....there's no way in hell he found out while the game was going on. As for team chemistry? Start by giving effort for your teammates. As I said above. If Green was a great teammate he would have given more effort for his teammates. Judging by tweets from fans from other places he played they really dislike the guy and say the same thing. He doesn't play defense and lacks effort. Memphis fans hate him. Joe and Donovan both made posts about how good of a teammate he was, and I'm sure he was a nice guy. He was also a big reason they were being left with a mess to clean up. Sorry guys, Green was not good, and his lack of effort defensively was terrible.

 

[oneye]

I’m still having some trouble giving this positive spin. Green was not worse than Niang or Davis. We have **** for 4s and he was the closest thing we had to one. He had to have asked out. That’s bad.

And how is adding two combo guards an answer to this?

Eh, Joe Johnson did the same thing essentially. Sometimes things just don't work out or aren't the right fit, or circumstances change. It seems like it was very mutual considering the fact he was released in the city he lives. And honestly releasing him and doing right by a league veteran is the better thing to do.

 

[enchilada_style]

I’m having a little trouble with the timing. No matter how you look at it, trading or waiving somebody 2 days before Christmas is cold as f. Just brutal.

Someone posted here that he lives in Miami and his wife is there. He basically took an Uber home to spend xmas with his family.

 

[oneye]

I remember Locke kept prefacing this before the season. He kept mentioning how before we had a lot of guys who played hard or they wouldn't be in the league. Now we had talented guys, and we'll see if they play as hard. Green is talented. He doesn't try hard, and from the fans of every team he's been on they say the same about him. There's a reason his market was a minimum contract. Teams see it.

 

[Hekate]

Also, this is a huge part of being a leader. I get DM is 23, and watched Jeff Green play as a kid.....and I'm sure Jeff is a really nice guy and that's great. But Karl also probably thought Ostertag was a nice guy but still correctly called him a lazy fat *** when he showed up to work out of shape. Donovan and Rudy need to hold their teammates to a greater standard than just being a nice guy. If he was such a great teammate he wouldn't have been continually getting beat on backdoor screens, giving no effort on defense, and leaving the starters with an absolute mess after not giving a **** during his minutes most the time.

They weren' talking about his play.

 

[oneye]

They weren' talking about his play.

I know that, but I think Donovan and Rudy are too nice. The league has changed but if you want to win hold your guys accountable. Jerry, John, Karl would have called the effort our bench is giving out in a second and would have done it to their face. You should hold your teammates accountable. He wasn't being a good teammate. He was part of what was causing you both to play over 35 minutes a night and clean up a terrible mess every time the bench was out there, and much of it was because he wasn't giving effort or being disciplined with what he was doing out there on the court. I simply think both of them are too nice to call a spade a spade. Several guys are and have been giving ****** effort, and it's on the franchise players to not be okay with that.

 

[Hekate]

I know that, but I think Donovan and Rudy are too nice. The league has changed but if you want to win hold your guys accountable. Jerry, John, Karl would have called the effort our bench is giving out in a second and would have done it to their face. You should hold your teammates accountable. He wasn't being a good teammate. He was part of what was causing you both to play over 35 minutes a night and clean up a terrible mess every time the bench was out there, and much of it was because he wasn't giving effort or being disciplined with what he was doing out there on the court.

One of the buzzwords duing interviews is accountability. They are often in the face of each other, constantly talking and showing what is right. I don't think it's nowhere near a problem.

 

[gregbroncs]

Yes, we all asked for changes. That doesn't mean waiving one of your 10 best players to sign a Gleaguer is smart. Even worse... we don't even plan to play that gleague player that we were apparently desperate to sign. This is Juwan Morgan all over again. We sign them. Then we sit them so they can look pretty on the pine.

Green could have worked as a bench player here with the right pieces next to him. He played a bunch of minutes next to Davis and Niang which was not a good pair to put next him in order to showcase his strengths and minimize his weaknesses. He's a real NBA caliber player who could have helped us in a playoff series.

Sorry I can't bring myself to get excited to watch Tucker added to our collection of young players who will never play while Niang plays more and sucks on a whole new level. Just not exciting to me.

I strongly disagree that he could help in a playoff series. He was a terrible defender who was also super streaky. Not sure he was really one of our 10 best players as he was a negative on the court most of the time.

 

[gregbroncs]

nah dude .. i mean even worse We have zero size or strength Is our plan really to just try to out shoot other teams now

Green had size but doesn't use it defensively. And as for strength, Niang and Brantley both have Green on that one. Our bench defense sucked, our bench offense sucked. Hopefully the moves today changes the offense, as for the defense hard to be much worse.

 

[oneye]

I strongly disagree that he could help in a playoff series. He was a terrible defender who was also super streaky. Not sure he was really one of our 10 best players as he was a negative on the court most of the time.

FWIW TJ is implying they may in fact plan on playing the guy. Didn't say he'd actually play but that he should be in uniform on Thursday