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Updated Jazzfanz Current Players 1st rd: Wes v silesian

Who wins?

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Wes Mantooth

Fred VanVleet
James Harden-Tim Hardaway Jr.
Marcus Morris-Jae Crowder
Serge Ibaka-Andre Iguodala-Taurean Prince
Rudy Gobert-Marc Gasol

This team is built on elite defense, insane toughness, great length and rebounding, tremendous floor spacing, and chemistry with an insane drive to simply win. I have two elite defenders at the 5. I have many guys I can throw on the Lebron’s and Durant’s of the league. Harden is an elite iso and post defender in case any haters weren’t aware. Harden is gonna simply drive all day or kick it out to elite shooters or lob it to Rudy.


silesian “write-up”

Irving-Derrick White
Oladipo-Fournier
Duncan Robinson-Derozan
Durant-Thaddeus Young
Vucevic-Nurkic
 
His starting backcourt has major injury concerns along with his best player who is coming off a major injury at an advanced age when almost no one has come back. There would be major chemistry issues with Kyrie and Durant there imo too. And he has too many crap defenders.
 
About as good of a team as you can build around Harden.

Well done wes

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Harden will have to carry a heavy offensive load, which he is capable of doing, but still not ideal. Plus you got a lot of old *** dudes.

Not sure how well Kyrie, KD, Vic would mesh though. Fornier, Derozan, Nurkic is a tough 2nd unit though. This would be a good matchup in real life.
 
Beer said:
Harden will have to carry a heavy offensive load, which he is capable of doing, but still not ideal. Plus you got a lot of old *** dudes.

Not sure how well Kyrie, KD, Vic would mesh though. Fornier, Derozan, Nurkic is a tough 2nd unit though. This would be a good matchup in real life.
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Damn that is a good second unit

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KD > Harden

Even if he only comes back 75% of himself.

Harden is improved on defense and is decent in the post. Lol at being an elite iso defender though. I'm sure there is some stat you saw though.
 
Ron Mexico said:
KD > Harden

Even if he only comes back 75% of himself.

Harden is improved on defense and is decent in the post. Lol at being an elite iso defender though. I'm sure there is some stat you saw though.
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Seriously. Elite is laughable.
 
Beer said:
Harden will have to carry a heavy offensive load, which he is capable of doing, but still not ideal. Plus you got a lot of old *** dudes.

Not sure how well Kyrie, KD, Vic would mesh though. Fornier, Derozan, Nurkic is a tough 2nd unit though. This would be a good matchup in real life.
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I have just two players older than 30. One was the starting center on the title winning Raptors. Not sure how that’s a lot of old *** dudes. He has the same with one being his “best player,” a 31 year old Durant coming off a major injury that no one comes back from at that age.
 
I think Sil's team is a little better for a few reasons. But even if I didn't I might vote for him just for that silly starter l statement. Since apparently we've given up on voting for the better teams on here...
 
Ron Mexico said:
Lol at best with that article. Yeah he plays the passing lanes, that doesn't make you a good defender especially iso.
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Ron Mexico said:
I think Sil's team is a little better for a few reasons. But even if I didn't I might vote for him just for that silly starter l statement. Since apparently we've given up on voting for the better teams on here...
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...stically-but-should-we-trust-the-numbers/amp/

Another article with stats. I guess they’re all wrong though and we should trust your eyes.
 
Ron Mexico said:
I think Sil's team is a little better for a few reasons. But even if I didn't I might vote for him just for that silly starter l statement. Since apparently we've given up on voting for the better teams on here...
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Oh wait... you think Gobert is expendable.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...stically-but-should-we-trust-the-numbers/amp/

Another article with stats. I guess they’re all wrong though and we should trust your eyes.
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Lol, good job at finding articles that confirm what you think. What was your Google search, lol.

Have you watched him much this year? Why do teams try to switch to him in the crunch and have success getting past him. Why is his team mediocre at best in defense? Why do they try to hide him so much on defense? It's a fun story to look so his steals she claim he is a good defender but he still plays 0 off ball defense. He simply ball watches and it leads to steals. He's a liability on the end of the court. He is really good on the other end though.
 
Both of these feel like teams built for the regular season but that wouldn't fair well in the playoffs grinder. But I give the edge to Wes.
 
Wes team is better but lol at built to be elite defensive team. Van Vleet is terrible, Harden is decent but likes to rest which he can with Gobert but Ibaka is getting older and defending 4s is going to be troublesome even if it's not Durant all the time.

Crowder and Igoudala are overrated defensively.
 
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