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Tough Day To Be In Law Enforcement

The guy is over the legal limit and a danger on the road. I understand arresting him but it also seems like a waste unless you don't have much choice. Arresting someone isn't the punishment for their breaking the law. What comes from a judge is the punishments. Cops aren't judges. They got the information they need. His car can be impounded. It's actually pretty wasteful use of resources to arrest him just to have him sleep off being drunk. It's much easier if you ask if he has someone that can pick him up and take him home. Give him the documentation for his court date. But if cops felt like he needed to be in jail for safety reasons like him being a threat to others they can at that point. What he did after being told he was under arrest is terrible. He is a threat at that point. I still think they could have used other methods to stop him besides shooting though. Somehow lots of other places do with similar situations. It's also that he is a big black man that is more scary to the police. If a white women did the same I doubt they would have shot her.
 
Archie Moses said:
It actually is.

Let him go? He probably drives drunk again.

Arrest him? He gonna remember that.
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I'm not saying let him go scott free. He still gets charged with DUI, pays the thousands in fines, go to a victim presentation, losses his license (although I personally think ignition interlocks are a better choice), does community service and pays close to 10000 more for car insurance over the next several years.

Hard to forget all that.

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Gameface said:
I'm not saying let him go scott free. He still gets charged with DUI, pays the thousands in fines, go to a victim presentation, losses his license (although I personally think ignition interlocks are a better choice), does community service and pays close to 10000 more for car insurance over the next several years.

Hard to forget all that.

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I agree.

We can still levy justified punishments on offenders. We really just need to rethink the whole officer with a gun thing in law enforcement. Send a de-escalation officer. Tow away his truck. Get him an uber. Levy fines and other penalties. Situations don’t have to escalate.

Honestly, it’s similar to parenting or education. Many situations that turn ugly can often be avoided just by following a de-escalation process. Doesn’t mean we don’t levy justice. But be smart.

How many other minor incidents are needlessly escalated because a police officer arrives? I’d really like to see the effects over a few years if we stopped sending police officers to wipe every nose out there.
 
Gameface said:
I'm not saying let him go scott free. He still gets charged with DUI, pays the thousands in fines, go to a victim presentation, losses his license (although I personally think ignition interlocks are a better choice), does community service and pays close to 10000 more for car insurance over the next several years.

Hard to forget all that.

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Going through all that myself at the moment. Still had to get into the van and be processed at the station. Took about an hour. 17 months later its still costing me.
 
Archie Moses said:
It actually is.

Let him go? He probably drives drunk again.

Arrest him? He gonna remember that.
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They have his car though. They can impound it, look up his home address and go send officers to arrest him in the morning. I guess that may be asking the cops to think fast though, which they aren't terribly adept at.
 
Ron Mexico said:
The guy is over the legal limit and a danger on the road. I understand arresting him but it also seems like a waste unless you don't have much choice. Arresting someone isn't the punishment for their breaking the law. What comes from a judge is the punishments. Cops aren't judges. They got the information they need. His car can be impounded. It's actually pretty wasteful use of resources to arrest him just to have him sleep off being drunk. It's much easier if you ask if he has someone that can pick him up and take him home. Give him the documentation for his court date. But if cops felt like he needed to be in jail for safety reasons like him being a threat to others they can at that point. What he did after being told he was under arrest is terrible. He is a threat at that point. I still think they could have used other methods to stop him besides shooting though. Somehow lots of other places do with similar situations. It's also that he is a big black man that is more scary to the police. If a white women did the same I doubt they would have shot her.
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1. Was he resisting to begin with?
2. Was he driving -- he was asleep in the car. Yes, see if he can call someone to get him and issue him a ticket
3. There was no reason for police to be such assholes. He was over the limit, issue him a citation to appear in court and let that be the end of it. The handcuff **** has got to end. It escalated the situation. I know I see it on Live PD and I hate that. They handcuff people who have done nothing wrong and pose no threat -- ****ing assholes!
4. But police don't want to help people; they want to control people and put them under their thumb -- that's how many of them are, and I think their training has something to do with that.
5. I know Trump probably won't do this, but the new President needs to authorize a special commission to evaluate police training and protocols and call for reforms.
 
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