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Game Thread Aug 07, 2020: Utah Jazz vs San Antonio Spurs

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Niang is 31.5% from 3 since the all star break. That doesn't include todays game. He's 3/23 since the restart.

He's been hot garbage and that hurts me to say. He's been given a leash that is way too long already. Its produce or sit time.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I have a theory on Niang... I think his numbers are somewhat padded by garbage time shooting. Can't tell you how many games he goes 2/3 on threes after the game is in hand.

Don't have access to the numbers, but he shoots 35.5% from three in the first half. Overall he is down to 39%. He has to be a 40% 3 point shooter on volume to justify his existence. I love the guy but he's killing us and we don't have time for him to break out of his slump.
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That seems far-fetched.

It's not a perfect stat but with 3 minutes left in 4th quarter, he shoots %37. That's the lowest percentage of all except 2nd quarter where he shot 3 3pters.
 
@Handlogten's Heros

another stat.

In 4th quarters with margin of 10 points, Niang shoots %43. Significantly worse than his 1st and 3rd quarters.

10 points margin with 3 minutes left on the 4 quarter, Niang just shoots %35.
 
Hekate said:
@Handlogten's Heros

another stat.

In 4th quarters with margin of 10 points, Niang shoots %43. Significantly worse than his 1st and 3rd quarters.
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He’s definitely earned a spot on the bench. The real question is merely whether Q has faith in anybody else. With Morgan getting dinged up, the only other guy would be Brantley.... and even in today’s scenario, he seemed pretty far down Q’s depth chart. It sucks.
 
Hekate said:
@Handlogten's Heros

another stat.

In 4th quarters with margin of 10 points, Niang shoots %43. Significantly worse than his 1st and 3rd quarters.
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That is kind of exactly what I'm saying. 1st and 3rd quarters the game is still competitive and still up for grabs... then he bangs a few in garbage time when it doesn't matter.

He shoots 35% against western conference teams and 44% against the eastern conference (when we are beating up on losers like Washington and NY). If he is closer to 35% than 40%+ that is meaningful.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
That is kind of exactly what I'm saying. 1st and 3rd quarters the game is still competitive and still up for grabs... then he bangs a few in garbage time when it doesn't matter.

He shoots 35% against western conference teams and 44% against the eastern conference (when we are beating up on losers like Washington and NY). If he is closer to 35% than 40%+ that is meaningful.
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Handlogten's Heros said:
That is kind of exactly what I'm saying. 1st and 3rd quarters the game is still competitive and still up for grabs... then he bangs a few in garbage time when it doesn't matter.

He shoots 35% against western conference teams and 44% against the eastern conference (when we are beating up on losers like Washington and NY). If he is closer to 35% than 40%+ that is meaningful.
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10 points margin with 3 minutes left on the 4 quarter, Niang just shoots %35.

This is the definition of garbage stats. He just shoots %35. Lower than his overall percentage.
 
NAOS said:
He’s definitely earned a spot on the bench. The real question is merely whether Q has faith in anybody else. With Morgan getting dinged up, the only other guy would be Brantley.... and even in today’s scenario, he seemed pretty far down Q’s depth chart. It sucks.
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Niang's minutes need to be reduced until he finds his shot which he will and he needs to play all of his minutes with Rudy but I am against cutting all of his minutes. Let him chuck some shots till playoffs so he can come out of his slump.
 
Hekate said:
10 points margin with 3 minutes left on the 4 quarter, Niang just shoots %35.

This is the definition of garbage stats. He just shoots %35. Lower than his overall percentage.
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There are other types of garbage time though... games against NY, Charlotte, Washington, and other bottom feeders get into garbage time very quickly... the opposite also happens when we get waxed by LA Portland etc.

I'd like the cleaning the glass numbers because they filter out all garbage time. It just seems like there are so many games he misses until it really doesn't matter then he hits a few. He has to shoot 40% or higher to really be an nba player and he is now below that mark. You can always come back to him if Brantley or Oni doesn't work, but honestly as the playoffs advance teams only get more athletic and Niang becomes even more of a liability.

Give him the day off tomorrow and throw Brantley and Oni out there... lets just see it in meaningful minutes.
 
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