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Sound Familiar? Knicks watch; could they be a possible desination for AK?

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Obviously, there were two big stories in the NBA today that could definately affect the future thinking of the New York Knicks.

https://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5356502

NEW YORK -- The New York Knicks reached an agreement in principle Monday with free agent Amare Stoudemire after receiving assurances it would not be an impediment to their pursuit of LeBron James.

The All-Star forward will receive a five-year, $99.7 million contract that will reunite him with coach Mike D'Antoni.
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This really isn't news at all obviously, since we've known for a few days that this was happening. But the news that caught my eye:

https://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5356389

Carmelo Anthony will be a member of the Denver Nuggets next season -- whether he accepts the team's offer of a contract extension or not.

With speculation that Denver may trade their All-Star forward growing over the past week, a high-ranking Nuggets official said the club has no intentions of moving its best player.

"There is no way we are trading Carmelo Anthony," the official said. "We're 100 percent certain of that."
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So this idea was originally tossed around in another thread; but could AK be a good one-year rental for New York if they're after Melo next season? Even if they sign LeBron, they'd still try and go after him. So an expiring Kirilenko could be incentive for the Nuggets to trade him mid-season, or even use the Space created by AK to sign Melo for the Knicks.

How would David Lee (signed for $8 Million per year)+Eddy Curry+1st Round pick+cash for Kirilenko sound? Too one-sided, or a great deal for both teams? Also, feel free to throw out your AK to the Knicks trade ideas, since this seems like a pretty good idea.
 
If they aren't able to sign anyone else except Amare, I could see them considering AK. If they sign two maxes that would leave them too thin to take on AK.
However, David Lee is getting at least 12 million a year, and not sure if the Knicks can legally trade another 1st round pick.
 
The Knicks can't trade their 2011 first round pick because they didn't have one in 2010. They could trade a future pick (2012 or farther out). The exception would be if they own some other first round pick next year, but I don't think that's the case right now at least.

Other than the picks, I could maybe see this being a possibility later in the month if the Knicks come up empty (besides Stoudamire), but this certainly wouldn't be plan A.
 
Kenwood said:
The Knicks can't trade their 2011 first round pick because they didn't have one in 2010. They could trade a future pick (2012 or farther out). The exception would be if they own some other first round pick next year, but I don't think that's the case right now at least.

Other than the picks, I could maybe see this being a possibility later in the month if the Knicks come up empty (besides Stoudamire), but this certainly wouldn't be plan A.
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i'm pretty sure that's incorrect about the 2011 pick. the consecutive years rule only applies to "future" picks and the 2010 is no longer a future pick. the knicks can trade away their 2011 pick as long as they haven't already committed their 2012 pick.

https://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q73 (6th paragraph)
 
The Rockets already own the greater of their 2011 pick and the Knicks (top 1 protected) and the Rockets already own the Knicks 2012 pick outright (top 5 protected). The Knicks don't have anything to trade until 2014 unless they can trade the lesser of their pick and the Rockets next year, and/or unless they do a similar thing with the Jazz in 2013.

Long story short, the Knicks have already sold the farm.
 
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ok, that makes sense. wonder if that fact came up during their pitch to the free agents. i love that the anonymous knicks source (anonymous because contracts can't be announced til thursday) pretty much sounded resigned to settle with only amare: "if two free agents change teams and we get one of them, that's pretty good."

btw, NYC getting amare pretty much kills the chances that boozer goes there... which means no david lee for the jazz. it also means one less team that will want to throw money at booz.
 
Still if the Jazz are unable to unload his contract on the Knicks for a year that would really help in the money department.
 
theNBAnerd said:
and really hurt in the basketball department.
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The Jazz aren't going to be able to keep the team as it is right now. There is just 2 much money involved in a none Championship team. If we Keep Boozer then AK has to go. If we Keep AK there is now way the Jazz well Keep Boozer. Something has to give. If they are able to bring back Boozer then Sign AK for a very reduced price after this next season to get under the tax I guess that is a possibility. But that still doesn't make us a clear cut contender. So why not cut your loses with one of them and try something new.
 
Jazz4ever said:
If they aren't able to sign anyone else except Amare, I could see them considering AK. If they sign two maxes that would leave them too thin to take on AK.
However, David Lee is getting at least 12 million a year, and not sure if the Knicks can legally trade another 1st round pick.
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Even if they signed two maxes, I could still see them taking AK. I mean, you'd have a base lineup of AK at the PF, Amare at C, and LeBron at the SF. Or, get Wade and move AK and STAT down one position. Then, they could possibly go after Carmelo AND sign AK on the cheap next offseason. I think this trade scenario makes way too much sense for New York to pass up.
 
I don't get it. Trading for Lee/Curry would result in a higher cap number than just paying AK. The only real reason we'd trade AK would be to clear cap space, so taking back equal or more salary doesn't really make much fiscal sense. Also, I doubt Lee would do a S&T unless he's getting closer to $10 million/year - and if we're going to invest that kind of money on a PF who can't carry us to the Finals, I'd just as soon resign Boozer for an extra year and a few million more.
 
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