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Wes Mantooth said:
Yep. Those were the same two clowns who ****ed up the last few seasons of GoT, correct?
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They did but at least this trilogy is finished.

And to be fair, GOT was a bomb ready to go off. I still have my doubts that the book's ending is going to do any justice to the body of work. The world is vast and there are just too many things happening.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Yep. Those were the same two clowns who ****ed up the last few seasons of GoT, correct?
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I mean they were there for every GoT season, but I've seen a few things about Benioff that at least make me suspicious that he's not a good person, is where he is because of massive privilege (family), he's a compulsive liar and narcissist. Weiss is his sidekick who helps deflect attention away from how big a D Bag Benioff is. Benioff is basically a no talent hack who's faked his way into these massively significant positions, but he treats the actual talent poorly and creates a negative work environment.

**** I'll have to find a few of the videos.

So beyond that, the "Three Body Problem" trilogy is a Chinese work. It has mostly Chinese characters, delves deeply into chinese culture, begins with a very dramatic scene from the Chinese Cultural Revolution and has a very distinctly non-western/American perspective. So why entrust Benioff and Weiss with that? Not only the cultural stuff, but "TBP" is NOT a pew pew, laser beams, warp drives, time travel, special powers kind of science fiction story. There is A LOT of very complex stuff going on that is based on real scientific concepts. In the books this is explained very well. I honestly can't imagine this working in visual series form without being dumbed down and/or significantly modified.

What we saw in GoT is that when Benioff and Weiss had source material to go off they did pretty good. They did massively **** up by combining two HUGE books (4 and 5) into a single season of the show, after having split book 3 into two awesome seaons. Everything in the show was at least okay through season 6, with just a few minor nitpicky complaints. Then season 7 happened. That's the season SPOILER ALERT!!! when characters started to warp across the entire map. When one of the dragons died and it was meh moment. Compare the death of the dragon to the death of Rob Stark, or Tywin, or Joffrey. Those deaths were shocking. Riveting, Emotional. The dragon died and it was like, "Eh, well, I guess I didn't think ALL the dragons would make it." It fell flat. That is 100% on Benioff and Weiss for not delivering the same emotional impact the series had been providing.

Then consider Bran in that final season especially. This is the character that is going to "win" GoT. Did they (Benioff and Weiss) build his character into the King of Westeros? Big fat NO on that. He sat in his chair and he knew things (to steal a phrase). It was up to them to build that character into the eventual King of Westeros. They failed to do that because they are dumb. Period.

Final note on their incompetence. Dany went all "mad queen". Fine. That's fine. However, we worked our way to that massive moment when the heroine of the entire damn series becomes a villian in like 3 pivotal moments in the 3 episodes leading up to it, and most of it was expressed by her bland facial expressions in response to conversations or situations she didn't like a little bit. That was weak, and that is on Benioff and Weiss.

That these clowns are being handed one of the most amazing Science Fiction stories of our lifetimes is sad.
 
How to Talk About Race by Ijeoma Oluo

How to be an Antiracist by Ibram Xolani

Honestly, I’ve decided not to talk about racism with those that have not read these books, both best sellers. This is where black people are coming from. Mandatory reading to understand BLM and why we march.


Going to read next:


Mediocre: The Dangerous Legacy of White Male America - Ijeoma Oluo


The Color of Money: Black Banks and the Racial Wealth Gap - Mehrsa Baradaran


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Gameface said:
I mean they were there for every GoT season, but I've seen a few things about Benioff that at least make me suspicious that he's not a good person, is where he is because of massive privilege (family), he's a compulsive liar and narcissist. Weiss is his sidekick who helps deflect attention away from how big a D Bag Benioff is. Benioff is basically a no talent hack who's faked his way into these massively significant positions, but he treats the actual talent poorly and creates a negative work environment.

**** I'll have to find a few of the videos.

So beyond that, the "Three Body Problem" trilogy is a Chinese work. It has mostly Chinese characters, delves deeply into chinese culture, begins with a very dramatic scene from the Chinese Cultural Revolution and has a very distinctly non-western/American perspective. So why entrust Benioff and Weiss with that? Not only the cultural stuff, but "TBP" is NOT a pew pew, laser beams, warp drives, time travel, special powers kind of science fiction story. There is A LOT of very complex stuff going on that is based on real scientific concepts. In the books this is explained very well. I honestly can't imagine this working in visual series form without being dumbed down and/or significantly modified.

What we saw in GoT is that when Benioff and Weiss had source material to go off they did pretty good. They did massively **** up by combining two HUGE books (4 and 5) into a single season of the show, after having split book 3 into two awesome seaons. Everything in the show was at least okay through season 6, with just a few minor nitpicky complaints. Then season 7 happened. That's the season SPOILER ALERT!!! when characters started to warp across the entire map. When one of the dragons died and it was meh moment. Compare the death of the dragon to the death of Rob Stark, or Tywin, or Joffrey. Those deaths were shocking. Riveting, Emotional. The dragon died and it was like, "Eh, well, I guess I didn't think ALL the dragons would make it." It fell flat. That is 100% on Benioff and Weiss for not delivering the same emotional impact the series had been providing.

Then consider Bran in that final season especially. This is the character that is going to "win" GoT. Did they (Benioff and Weiss) build his character into the King of Westeros? Big fat NO on that. He sat in his chair and he knew things (to steal a phrase). It was up to them to build that character into the eventual King of Westeros. They failed to do that because they are dumb. Period.

Final note on their incompetence. Dany went all "mad queen". Fine. That's fine. However, we worked our way to that massive moment when the heroine of the entire damn series becomes a villian in like 3 pivotal moments in the 3 episodes leading up to it, and most of it was expressed by her bland facial expressions in response to conversations or situations she didn't like a little bit. That was weak, and that is on Benioff and Weiss.

That these clowns are being handed one of the most amazing Science Fiction stories of our lifetimes is sad.
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Good post. Especially the parts about dany and bran. But bran especially. Man did they ever do a ****** job with bran.

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