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Ersan Ilyasova to sign with Jazz per Jordan Schultz

Release the Kraken said:
It wasn’t hard for Clarkson, a guy that had been riding the pine in Cleveland and look at him now! Ilyosova is much more of a proven commodity. And no real ?s like there were for Green and Mudiay, I mean aside from his real age maybe:)
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JC wasn't riding the pine in Cleveland. Here is a dirty little secret... he had changed his shot profile before coming here and it had some people intrigued. He had already kinda made the turn. This year he has done even better on both ends of the court.

Ready for another secret. JC was acquired in part because he had an expiring deal... DL himself said they were surprised how well it worked.

Ersan is fine... Jonas is a good comp for what he might bring. He doesn't bring something materially different than what Niang does imo. Quin is partial to vets and who knows what JZ promised Ersan... so I'm worried he jumps the line in front of more intriguing options.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I remember last year when we signed Ed Davis some speculated he would play PF next to Gobert
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Yeah... some are just making him out to be some athlete in his prime that will guard wings... he's pretty creaky on defense and will likely get cooked more in iso than Niang does. He has a knack for taking charges so likely a better help defender... although Niang is always in the right place. He doesn't always bother the offensive player but he's in the right place.

Our biggest hole is we need a wing other than Royce that can effectively guard these bigger wings. Royce only has 6 fouls... As long as we are still out there looking for the wing help we need then signing Ersan is fine by me... I have my doubts the FO sees it the same way.
 
The best I got is that Ilyasova would be the only player that theoretically could both hit the 3 and do some bigman stuff believably. Not sure that would put him in the rotation. The thing that concerns me is that this would likely preclude another signing.
 
I just think those pitching Ersan as a defensive stopper need to calm down... he may be a slight upgrade over Niang.
 



**Defense**
Illyasova defensive rating his entire career is a 104, last year a 102. Rudys defensive rating this year? 102.
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Illyasova defensive win shares, 2.0 would rank him 2nd behind only Rudy on the team.
Per 36 minutes he is a better defensive rebounder than Favors.
 
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Joncolton said:



**Defense**
Illyasova defensive rating his entire career is a 104, last year a 102. Rudys defensive rating this year? 102.
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Illyasova defensive win shares, 2.0 would rank him 2nd behind only Rudy on the team.
Per 36 minutes he is a better defensive rebounder than Favors.
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Kyle Korver had slightly better on/off defensive splits on the same team last year. Calm down. He's fine but he's shared the floor with Giannis, Lopez, Embiid which certainly helps those numbers.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I just think those pitching Ersan as a defensive stopper need to calm down... he may be a slight upgrade over Niang.
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From what I read Ersan is mediocre on defense though his help defense is better than mediocre. The guy is insurance in case somebody goes down or gets suspended for choking a ref out.

It feels similar to when we signed Chris Morris: he's a proven player toward the end of his career and I'm happy we signed him and although he's not going to have a monster impact by any means he's also not going to totally screw the pooch.
 
tonstermits said:
Quin may not even acknowledge this dude is on the bench. I don’t think it’s easy to gain Quin’s trust.
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If you are a vet its a much different story... remember how long Quin rode Joe Johnson, Jeff Green, Ed Davis, Thabo etc. when it was clear it wasn't working.
 
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