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Eenie-Meenie said:
Just sent a tweet to Andy suggesting he press for more details rather than accepting their opinions. That is, why they held have the opinion that he is not ready to play. You know, that is very ignorant to accept an opinion without justification. You need details to support an opinion.
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Andy is about the only beat writer with anything resembling balls. How is it that "sources" tell ESPN these details but our beat writers just tell us what the Jazz already told us? Oh......right......cause they did actual journalism.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
But the medical staff hasnt been working with Mitchell. His own staff has. I don't know how the whole process works when a player is using an independent team to rehab him, but clearly there was some kind of communication breakdown. Who it's on is hard to say.
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He was cleared for practice though right? The med staff may have been painted into a corner by all the folks saying he will play but they have one job here. He should have at least been listed on the medical report or talked with the coaches/players saying "not so fast". Rudy was clearly blindsided. If you want to be secretive about injuries for a competitive advantage then that is great... when the secrets hurt our team that's some bull ****.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The coaching staff is not the medical staff. I guarantee Quin/Donovan are just fine.

You can't cave to everything a star wants. There have to be some boundaries. I don't know how anyone saying a player should be held out for his health is treating them like puppets who are solely there for our entertainment, but ok.

And this is a pattern for Mitchell. Get pissy, leak to media, throw a fit that seems "unrepairable". The same thing happened with the Gobert situation and everyone got over it just fine. Same **** going to happen again.
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Mitchell has every right to be pissy in this situation. There are two options here and none reflect great on the organization:

1. Mitchell's injury is worse than we're being told, which if that's the case, it's really ****ing odd that they took him off the injury list and basically led the team, media and fans to believe he was going to play, just to abruptly change course. If they are that concerned with his injury, it's really hard to rationalize that two days will really be the difference maker for his needed return after he sat out the last six weeks. And that still doesn't get into why they moved forward and acted like he was playing. If Mitchell, and the coaching staff, as well as the team, thought he was playing, that's just horrible transparency and communication from the trainers and Mitchell deserves to be angry.

2. Mitchell is ready to play, but the trainers forced him to sit out of ****ing spite.

Those are the likely two options we're dealing with here and neither make Utah look good.

Your trying to pin this on Mitchell is just wrong. Mitchell should be raising hell, especially if it's the latter and he was only sat due to some weird power struggle.
 
Don didn't pass the balance beam test I guess...

Would be nice for some of the posters that are actual doctors could weigh in... paging @infection

Medical treatments and diagnosis could be easy to disagree on but not if this is a sprained ankle... is it a high ankle sprain... because they said it wasn't... was there additional ligament damage or some sort of fracture? There shouldn't be disagreements this strongly on a sprained ankle.
 
Sean said:
Mitchell has every right to be pissy in this situation. There are two options here and none reflect great on the organization:

1. Mitchell's injury is worse than we're being told, which if that's the case, it's really ****ing odd that they took him off the injury list and basically led the team, media and fans to believe he was going to play, just to abruptly change course. If they are that concerned with his injury, it's really hard to rationalize that two days will really be the difference maker for his needed return after he sat out the last six weeks. And that still doesn't get into why they moved forward and acted like he was playing. If Mitchell, and the coaching staff, as well as the team, thought he was playing, that's just horrible transparency and communication from the trainers and Mitchell deserves to be angry.

2. Mitchell is ready to play, but the trainers forced him to sit out of ****ing spite.

Those are the likely two options we're dealing with here and neither make Utah look good.

Your trying to pin this on Mitchell is just wrong. Mitchell should be raising hell, especially if it's the latter and he was only sat due to some weird power struggle.
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At this point it sucks I'm hoping for the second option.
 
It sucks Don is pissed.

It also sucks that the Knicks aren’t the joke they used to be. I think we all know where this is trending in a few years, as much as we hate to admit it.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think you re right but don’t you think the messaging should have been less certain he was going to play... it sounded like our guys were blindsided. Like shouldn’t the evaluation have taken place like the day before the game if it was up in the air... shouldn’t the guy be listed as a game time decision?

Again if this is the staff’s reputation on the line that is still ego. Better safe than sorry is nice but you can absolutely be too conservative. There has to be some middle ground here too... like “hey we understand you feel good enough to go... we disagree but maybe we can do a minute restriction thing and see how it’s running”. The description given is they didn’t like how something looked... great... that gonna change in 2 days in a meaningful way?

There is really no good option in this deal... either the guy is really hurt or he’s a diva or our training staff had their feelings hurt and are now being salty... just different shades of ******. This sucks.
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If Donovan has his own medical team now it might just be that the medical staff hasnt even been able to see him until that time. The decision to remove him might have come from his people to whoever handles that, and they may have strong-armed whoever it was to take him off.
 
Sean said:
Mitchell has every right to be pissy in this situation. There are two options here and none reflect great on the organization:

1. Mitchell's injury is worse than we're being told, which if that's the case, it's really ****ing odd that they took him off the injury list and basically led the team, media and fans to believe he was going to play, just to abruptly change course. If they are that concerned with his injury, it's really hard to rationalize that two days will really be the difference maker for his needed return after he sat out the last six weeks. And that still doesn't get into why they moved forward and acted like he was playing. If Mitchell, and the coaching staff, as well as the team, thought he was playing, that's just horrible transparency and communication from the trainers and Mitchell deserves to be angry.

2. Mitchell is ready to play, but the trainers forced him to sit out of ****ing spite.

Those are the likely two options we're dealing with here and neither make Utah look good.

Your trying to pin this on Mitchell is just wrong. Mitchell should be raising hell, especially if it's the latter and he was only sat due to some weird power struggle.
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Uhh, it's 10000% on Mitchell. He's the guy who has decided to involve another medical team which is likely what is causing the confusion over the whole situation. How can anything be reported when internally there are two conflicting reports?
 
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