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Where is that pit bull thread when I need it?

LogGrad98 said:
But you could argue that a helmet offers better protection than cropped ears, since it covers the ears and more of the head, but it is not always a weapon. But cropped ears actually leave more of the inner ear exposed, not to mention the rest of the head, so it is obviously less protection than a helmet, but it is still always a weapon? Interesting logic you got there.

Still comes down to your standard: If it agrees with Salty's opinion it is true, otherwise it is false. You need to change your name to SpeciousDawg.
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Yes, you could argue that a helmet does all of that. And you could also consider a helmet to be a weapon if you're using it to win a fight. A helmet wasn't "invented" as a tool for a fight though, unlike the cropped ears.

It's not a matter of agreeing with my opinion or not. It's just my opinion happens to agree with the definitions. You guys apparently thought a weapon was only for attacking. Plenty of definitions have it defined as something you use in a fight (without specifying attack or defense), and others actually say attack or defense.

Let me ask you this:
Do you consider Patriot missiles a weapon? Do you consider the missile defense (whatever they call that system that shoots down intercontinental missiles) a weapon? What about a suit of armor?
 
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SaltyDawg said:
Yes, you could argue that a helmet does all of that. And you could also consider a helmet to be a weapon if you're using it to win a fight. A helmet wasn't "invented" as a tool for a fight though, unlike the cropped ears.

It's not a matter of agreeing with my opinion or not. It's just my opinion happens to agree with the definitions. You guys apparently thought a weapon was only for attacking. Plenty of definitions have it defined as something you use in a fight (without specifying attack or defense), and others actually say attack or defense.

Let me ask you this:
Do you consider Patriot missiles a weapon? Do you consider the missile defense (whatever they call that system that shoots down intercontinental missiles) a weapon? What about a suit of armor?
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Are you now an expert on helmets? If not invented for battle, then why were they invented?

So by your own definition (highlighted) cropped ears cannot be weapons. How are they used? They just sit there. The dog does nothing with them. He does not use them.

It is still a matter of opinion. Your opinion is that cropped ears fit the definition of a weapon. It is the opinion of many on this board that they do NOT. Since I found a definition that specifies causing harm as the purpose of a weapon, I cannot understand why you would disagree with the definition, since it is so clear. Obviously you need to take it up with the authorities who wrote the definition, since obviously cropped ears are not used to cause harm in and of themselves so they cannot be construed to be weapons.
 
If anything, cropped ears were to benefit the dog in a fight. Anyone notice how floppy pit bull ears are when they are not cut? I see why they did it so the other dog didn't have something to get a hold of. Also, we all know how sensitive dogs ears are. My buddy use to wrestle with his lab and he would barely bite his dogs ear without hardly any pressure and his dog would yelp. Now imagine a pit bull grabbing onto it. Would make the dog run and quit I suppose. I don't see how they were used as a weapon. I don't see another dog thinking, "Hey! That guys ears are weird! I'm going to be scared now!" They wouldn't have time, their too busy sniffing each others butts.

I now realize that maybe all this was already brought up but I'm not about to read through every post.
 
The term weapons includes numerous items that can cause death or injury, including firearms, explosives, chemicals, and nuclear material. Because weapons pose a danger to the safety and well-being of individuals and communities, federal, state, and local statutes regulate the possession and use of weapons.
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https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/weapons

Just realized I forgot to post this definition.
 
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