You’re kidding right? The literal issue we are having right now is Donovan is handling the ball too much and Mike isn’t there.
Conley hamstringing again
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LoPo
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Don played the exact same amount of games as Paul George. Same assists. More points. 2 less rebounds. How many more team wins?
The games played is irrelevant
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Not from voters I listened to. Most had him just missing it, those who said who they were voting for that I heard.
LoPo
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Are you kidding? We are struggling because we are built around Rudy which doesn't work especially with a fragile PG (Hill, Conley, Rubio).
We need a PG with Don some, but more defenders and a stretch 5 option.
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This roster would be working just fine with a healthy Mike Conley and the Clippers if they beat us will be NBA champions at this point. Yeah, I’m gonna say we aren’t too far from the goal and a couple injuries derailed us. And the team IS built for Donovan. The moves made have literally been for him. They put a ball handling point guard and shooters next to him. Our point guard is hurt. Injuries happen, they suck. Oh well.
Sean
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My only problem is that we had zero foreshadowing of Conley's potential injuries despite the dude missing like 120 games the four seasons before he was traded to Utah. It just feels we put all our eggs in a broken basket and now are shocked the basket broke and the eggs are sitting on the sidewalk cracked an unusable.
LoPo
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That wasn't the point. HH said we built around Don. I know that we didn't. It was clear that we wanted to put a bunch of guys around Rudy.
We have had an amazing season, but there are still a bunch around here who think we lack what it takes to win the title. It's not just Conley this series. It's more defenders and a stretch big.
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Sean
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I agree that not having Conley isn't the only reason this series is tied. I do think he does a great job of running the offense, and we lack that right now. But I still think the Clippers could have tied it up even if Conley was playing. Where Conley hurts is just how thoroughly limited we look out there and I suspect the games in Los Angeles would have been much closer - or we would have been able to shut down the zone defense better in the second half of game two, forcing Lou to abandon the move and maybe preventing the Clippers from getting into this unstoppable state they seem to be in right now.
But I do think, if Conley was 100% healthy, we're likely winning the west - and that's all you can really ask of any team. Get on the big stage and see what happens.
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@infection does Hardens first half make it more or less likely Conley is cleared... on one hand he hasn’t aggravated it... on the other hand he is not doing well.
Conley is the only one that can make Rudy an important offensive player under playoff intensity/tactics. Donovan isn't good at getting him the ball. Ingles is largely ineffective at getting him the ball where Rudy can make a positive play with it. In fact, I'd guess Rudy/Ingles combo has more turnovers than other outcomes. If Rudy isn't utilized on offense it makes everything harder for everyone. He sometimes gives less effort on the other end as well when he never gets the ball or turns it over every time. Conleys importance cannot be overstated. I still think Utah can win the series without Conley because homecourt advantage is real; Jazz play better, get more calls when molested, Clippers players less effective.
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The reason players can't get Rudy the ball has more to do with Rudy than the players trying to get him the ball. He just can't handle passes unless they are above his waist. This is something he needs to work on the in the off-season, and it's well overdue.
LoPo
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I agree. And it's even harder vs this Clippers team. If Conley was healthy, they would put Kawhi and PG on Conley and Don blocking their visibility and passing ability.
Batum on Rudy
Morris on Bojan
Committee on Royce, Joe, Clarkson
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