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Big Al on Millsap

sepanol said:
I see him as a 6th man too thats why i told he is a barely starter in PF. Maybe i use the wrong wording there. It is different to hold his own and be actually effective. If we are gonna play sap as 3, lets better trade him, that doesn't make sense. Because he is not gonna be able to use any of his skills in that position at all.

Everyone called me Big Al hater and Kanter homer when i was talking about trading him, but apparently it will make everyones duties much more clear.
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Is ginobili barely a starter at sg, no, but he is the Spurs 6th man.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Is ginobili barely a starter at sg, no, but he is the Spurs 6th man.
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So ? I don't understand your point, i didn't say Millsap can't be 6th man which it is the best think he can do, being the 6th man. But it would be awkward if he starts at SF like ginobili starts as pg. If Millsap is gonna be starting SF in a team, it means that team has no SF on the roster
 
Im watching Memo right now, against one of the best 3 teams in turkey, he was killing them with 3s , midrange jump shots, but he got fouled out, 2 technical fouls
 
sepanol said:
I see him as a 6th man too thats why i told he is a barely starter in PF. Maybe i use the wrong wording there. It is different to hold his own and be actually effective. If we are gonna play sap as 3, lets better trade him, that doesn't make sense. Because he is not gonna be able to use any of his skills in that position at all.

Everyone called me Big Al hater and Kanter homer when i was talking about trading him, but apparently it will make everyones duties much more clear.
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Okay, Ill bite.

How on earth will trading Big Al make everyones duties more clear? Will it improve our logjam at PF, seeing as Kanter, Favors, and Millsap all "naturally" play at that position? Wont it be "hard" of for Kanter to adopt another position, and play Center? After all, you said not every player can, Sepanol. Even if Kanter does, who will start at PF between him and Favors? The only thing that trading Big Al would affect, is the amount of playing time that KANTER and OKUR receives. Hmmm, surprise surprise. Sepanol looking out for his countrymen yet again.

As you can see, the second we got Favors was the instant Millsap's security on this team was removed. I cannot think of many players I like more in the NBA, but quite frankly, their ceilings differ. So unless, Favors plays center and Millsap starts at PF over the next few years until we see how Kanter becomes, there aren't many other possibilities for him, unless he is either traded away, or works towards becoming an SF. Or he could be a 6th man, but hey if the guy hates being benched then right on. Let him work hard to avoid it.
 
sepanol said:
So ? I don't understand your point, i didn't say Millsap can't be 6th man which it is the best think he can do, being the 6th man. But it would be awkward if he starts at SF like ginobili starts as pg. If Millsap is gonna be starting SF in a team, it means that team has no SF on the roster
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You've completely misaddressed his point, and turned it into your stupid "players can't grow into other positions" argument. He is saying that if a player plays as a 6th man, it does not mean that he cannot start at his respective position. Ginobli is one of the best SGs of the last ten years, yet he doesn't start. Hence, you can't call a 6th man "barely a starter" because last time I checked, 17/8 on 53 Fg% is more than adequate as far as starting PFs go. Lets not forget how badly he destroyed Scola last season, a player you seem to have an undeniable hard on for.
 
dalamon said:
Okay, Ill bite.

How on earth will trading Big Al make everyones duties more clear? Will it improve our logjam at PF, seeing as Kanter, Favors, and Millsap all "naturally" play at that position? Wont it be "hard" of for Kanter to adopt another position, and play Center? After all, you said not every player can, Sepanol. Even if Kanter does, who will start at PF between him and Favors? The only thing that trading Big Al would affect, is the amount of playing time that KANTER and OKUR receives. Hmmm, surprise surprise. Sepanol looking out for his countrymen yet again.

As you can see, the second we got Favors was the instant Millsap's security on this team was removed. I cannot think of many players I like more in the NBA, but quite frankly, their ceilings differ. So unless, Favors plays center and Millsap starts at PF over the next few years until we see how Kanter becomes, there aren't many other possibilities for him, unless he is either traded away, or works towards becoming an SF. Or he could be a 6th man, but hey if the guy hates being benched then right on. Let him work hard to avoid it.
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Memo and Millsap will start, Favors and Kanter will be the second team. So they will all get almost same mins, and it may fluctuate game to game, depending on their performances
 
dalamon said:
You've completely misaddressed his point, and turned it into your stupid "players can't grow into other positions" argument. He is saying that if a player plays as a 6th man, it does not mean that he cannot start at his respective position. Ginobli is one of the best SGs of the last ten years, yet he doesn't start. Hence, you can't call a 6th man "barely a starter" because last time I checked, 17/8 on 53 Fg% is more than adequate as far as starting PFs go. Lets not forget how badly he destroyed Scola last season, a player you seem to have an undeniable hard on for.
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Only guys like you rely their opinions only on stats and only one game. Everyone can destroy someone just in 1 game, thats not the point. But i watch them and thats how i have ideas about players. Also you continue manipulating my posts by missing some words, i told, not all players can grow in all positions. So Kanter, he is already playing both positions, if you ask my opinion i would say he is PF like Jefferson, but since he has size to play center, like as Jefferson, he can grow as a center. But millsap , he is already undersized for Center so he can't play a Center, and from what i saw earlier he can't play SF as good as PF.

Ginobili is a very good player no doubt, but he can't be a starting PG in any nba team like Millsap can't be a starting SF in any nba team. That's my idea, and i am pretty adamant on it. It is different to play some mins in a different position and to be a consistent player in that position. That's what i am saying. And i am not really stuck on this PF-C comparison. This positions, you can see it like a pair, and the players playing in these positions should be good pair rather than being who is PF who is C indeed. Obviously Millsap- Jefferson wasn't good pair. But i think, Favors and Kanter have complemantary skills and they can be good big man pair no matter who is PF who is C. And they match up with the players more suitable for them physically
 
sepanol said:
Only guys like you rely their opinions only on stats and only one game. Everyone can destroy someone just in 1 game, thats not the point. But i watch them and thats how i have ideas about players. Also you continue manipulating my posts by missing some words, i told, not all players can grow in all positions. So Kanter, he is already playing both positions, if you ask my opinion i would say he is PF like Jefferson, but since he has size to play center, like as Jefferson, he can grow as a center. But millsap , he is already undersized for Center so he can't play a Center, and from what i saw earlier he can't play SF as good as PF.

Ginobili is a very good player no doubt, but he can't be a starting PG in any nba team like Millsap can't be a starting SF in any nba team. That's my idea, and i am pretty adamant on it. It is different to play some mins in a different position and to be a consistent player in that position. That's what i am saying. And i am not really stuck on this PF-C comparison. This positions, you can see it like a pair, and the players playing in these positions should be good pair rather than being who is PF who is C indeed. Obviously Millsap- Jefferson wasn't good pair. But i think, Favors and Kanter have complemantary skills and they can be good big man pair no matter who is PF who is C. And they match up with the players more suitable for them physically
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Ok.... Ok.... Thanks once again you've maneged to completely twist my words. I will dumb it up for you so even you can understand!

You said Millsap was barely a starting pf. I disagree with that, so to prove my point I said Ginobili is not a starter, but he could start for 90% of the teams in the league. Millsap would start on more teams than not in the NBA.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Ok.... Ok.... Thanks once again you've maneged to completely twist my words. I will dumb it up for you so even you can understand!

You said Millsap was barely a starting pf. I disagree with that, so to prove my point I said Ginobili is not a starter, but he could start for 90% of the teams in the league. Millsap would start on more teams than not in the NBA.
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Millsap is a starter, maybe i used that word wrong, but he is not like the main starter in a contending team in my opinion, i would rather to have him as a 6th man.
And ginobili of course is a starter, just because he was 6th man 1-2 season shouldn't neglect what he did for the rest of the seasons he was in nba. Although i don't like his fake gestures when he is fouled, i appreciate his professionalism, he is a great player
 
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