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infection said:
And WTF are you always strolling social media of everyone's family members?
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I SEE THIS **** ON TWITTER I DON'T EVEN FOLLOW HER. This is a Jazzfanz forum, and this is what happens across the entire league. Players stuff gets posted and reported on. Welcome to being famous.
 
LoPo said:
One of the main things I do this summer is....

Re-sign Mike Conley and trade Clarkson
OR
Sign & Trade Conley (if he wants to leave) and keep Clarkson.

Just like I felt last year, I think we need defense more than we do Conley AND Clarkson. That's why I'd trade Clarkson if we can re-sign Conley and vice versa. Do one of these trades in order to improve our defense and/or stretch 4/5 options.
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Jordan Clarkson deals are difficult to do... while saving some money. I've tried a couple... Only one I really like is Melton for JC and I don't think the Grizz do it.
 
White Chocolate said:
I want zero part in any Clarkson trade.
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We just have so many assets in order to improve on defense. If we bring back Conley and Clarkson, that leaves a Favors trade, a Bojan trade or multiple players willing to take a pay cut in order to improve our lackluster defense.

I would rather sign and trade Conley, but Conley is the better player. And Clarkson's value is at an all time high. I feel they are a little redundant with Don. 3 offensive shoot first players who are average defenders? Really?
 
LoPo said:
We just have so many assets in order to improve on defense. If we bring back Conley and Clarkson, that leaves a Favors trade, a Bojan trade or multiple players willing to take a pay cut in order to improve our lackluster defense.

I would rather sign and trade Conley, but Conley is the better player. And Clarkson's value is at an all time high. I feel they are a little redundant with Don. 3 offensive shoot first players who are average defenders? Really?
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The tale of Dennis Lindsey. Going ALL IN on a couple different player archetypes.
 
LoPo said:
We just have so many assets in order to improve on defense. If we bring back Conley and Clarkson, that leaves a Favors trade, a Bojan trade or multiple players willing to take a pay cut in order to improve our lackluster defense.

I would rather sign and trade Conley, but Conley is the better player. And Clarkson's value is at an all time high. I feel they are a little redundant with Don. 3 offensive shoot first players who are average defenders? Really?
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Let me rephrase that. I want zero part in trading Clarkson for salary relief. I would move him in a deal for Lonzo though.
 
White Chocolate said:
Let me rephrase that. I want zero part in trading Clarkson for salary relief. I would move him in a deal for Lonzo though.
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Oh, I only trade Clarkson for value that addresses different need areas on the roster. I wouldn't trade him to simply save money.
 
Some of the moves I'd make if I were the Jazz FO:
• Acquire DeMar DeRozan via S&T for Bojan and Matt Thomas
• Resign Mike Conley
• Sign Otto Porter Jr using our MLE
• Sign Kris Dunn/Justice Winslow to vet minimum deals
• Target JT Thor or Trey Murphy at #30
• Buy a 2nd round pick and target Jared Butler
• Dump Favors contract

PG - Conley | Dunn | Butler
SG - Mitchell | Clarkson
SF - DeRozan | Ingles | Winslow
PF - O'Neale | Porter | Thor
C - Gobert | Udoka
 
I thought of something that would make me mildly okay with that rat bastard Ainge in the front office. Under the conditions that he's simply an advisor, and not even close to a top advisor.

One of the real failures of the DL era was to settle for deals that were either overpays or didn't get enough value in return. Overpaying Favors, Exum, and *insert player here*, the boatload of assets given for Conley when it's pretty clear only the Jazz were the only ones negotiating for him, handing out picks like candy, etc. Danny Ainge would *never* do that. He never makes a trade unless he's the clear winner, whereas DL was happy to be "good enough." There is no way Ainge would've settled for any of that.

I'm worried Zanik won't be aggressive, just like DL. I'm not saying I want the Ainge approach of only ever making moves where he's the clear winner. It's the main reason I don't want him - everyone in the league hates him. But this front office needs a spine. The only time I can think of that DL hardballed someone was the first Hayward contract - since it blew up in his face, maybe that's why he was gunshy for the rest of his tenure. If Ainge can be the voice of the room that says "man up and ask for more or walk away," even a couple times, that would be incredibly valuable.

Otherwise, **** him.
 
The Nets got Bruce Brown for the same price we paid for Matt Thomas... I heard Matt will be taking an advisory role too.
 
campaignist said:
I thought of something that would make me mildly okay with that rat bastard Ainge in the front office. Under the conditions that he's simply an advisor, and not even close to a top advisor.

One of the real failures of the DL era was to settle for deals that were either overpays or didn't get enough value in return. Overpaying Favors, Exum, and *insert player here*, the boatload of assets given for Conley when it's pretty clear only the Jazz were the only ones negotiating for him, handing out picks like candy, etc. Danny Ainge would *never* do that. He never makes a trade unless he's the clear winner, whereas DL was happy to be "good enough." There is no way Ainge would've settled for any of that.

I'm worried Zanik won't be aggressive, just like DL. I'm not saying I want the Ainge approach of only ever making moves where he's the clear winner. It's the main reason I don't want him - everyone in the league hates him. But this front office needs a spine. The only time I can think of that DL hardballed someone was the first Hayward contract - since it blew up in his face, maybe that's why he was gunshy for the rest of his tenure. If Ainge can be the voice of the room that says "man up and ask for more or walk away," even a couple times, that would be incredibly valuable.

Otherwise, **** him.
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If Ainge comes, I expect him to be making most of the decisions.
 
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