Jazz Offseason Plan

[Handlogten's Heros]

That’s fine, but if we are doing a sign and trade and some team wanted him instead of Clarkson or something is he a deal breaker?

I doubt we find a player worth making that sacrifice for... so
I’m gonna say yes... it’s a deal breaker.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Quin and the rest of the FO will like Mooney’s ability to screen with intention I think. He knows why he’s doing it and how to do it and would fit in with our offense.

FWIW…

That was something I noticed is he made a couple guys fee that pick. It’s an under-rated thing but pretty important for us.

 

[Miggs]

It isn’t hard, but I have zero confidence in them not f***ing this up. The names I’ve seen us linked with for the draft are honestly very concerning. Slow, fat body bigs, and small undersized guards. I mean, for ****’s guys.

We honestly should not be working out a single player that isn’t between 6’5 and 6’8 and that defend like hell. That’s the only criteria. Shooting is a plus, but not a necessity.

I’d say 6’5” to 6’10” depending on the physical profile of the player but I concur.

Do you concur?

Concur with what sir?

 

[Bodhi]

That was something I noticed is he made a couple guys fee that pick. It’s an under-rated thing but pretty important for us.

Yup, and then immediately finds the spot on the floor he needs to be after he creates the space the screen was intended to get.

Either on the perimeter or to the hole to make the other defender make a decision.

Honestly impressive.

 

[NUMBERICA]

So I don't know how much this has been talked about, but I am getting jumpy about retooling this team. The debate over whether it's Donovan or Rudy's team is over (at least/especially if it's the case that there is a level of rift under the surface that's not going to fully heal and may flare up), and most of the team's offensive talent are dudes that are an annual threat to fall of a cliff and whose contract statuses are or will soon be nigh.

So what is the possibility of trading Rudy to the Cavs for the #3 pick (if Evan Mobley is there, and whatever stuff has to be done to make it work)? I know Gobert can't technically be traded until October, but I don't know if that's simply a formality or not. I think Mobley pans out and would become a perfect big as he develops (though he might have some rough times in the first season or two at his weight and if he doesn't have a perfect front court mate alongside him). The Cavs might do that because they are jumpy about fielding a respectable team again (which is enough to make the playoffs in that joke of a conference).

Would the Jazz do that? Should the Jazz do that? Would the Cavs consider it (again, assuming Mobley is there at #3)?

 

[NUMBERICA]

Yup, and then immediately finds the spot on the floor he needs to be after he creates the space the screen was intended to get.

Either on the perimeter or to the hole to make the other defender make a decision.

Honestly impressive.

Yeah, I didn't mean for my salty tone to take away from what appeared to be some real positives, I, again, am just not sure what question he's answering here. But there are some positives for sure, and would theoretically provide some abilities that the Jazz don't really have (though again, might be more of a luxury than a necessity, assuming the roster doesn't change, that is...).

 

[Getting Traded]

Interesting people mention Batum. I thought he was a lot older but he actually is younger than Conley. He would be perfect for what the Jazz are missing.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So I don't know how much this has been talked about, but I am getting jumpy about retooling this team. The debate over whether it's Donovan or Rudy's team is over (at least/especially if it's the case that there is a level of rift under the surface that's not going to fully heal and may flare up), and most of the team's offensive talent are dudes that are an annual threat to fall of a cliff and whose contract statuses are or will soon be nigh.

So what is the possibility of trading Rudy to the Cavs for the #3 pick (if Evan Mobley is there, and whatever stuff has to be done to make it work)? I know Gobert can't technically be traded until October, but I don't know if that's simply a formality or not. I think Mobley pans out and would become a perfect big as he develops (though he might have some rough times in the first season or two at his weight and if he doesn't have a perfect front court mate alongside him). The Cavs might do that because they are jumpy about fielding a respectable team again (which is enough to make the playoffs in that joke of a conference).

Would the Jazz do that? Should the Jazz do that? Would the Cavs consider it (again, assuming Mobley is there at #3)?

Rudy can’t be moved until October because he signed his extension. Any Rudy trade would be mid season or next offseason.

 

[Ineptimusprime]

So I don't know how much this has been talked about, but I am getting jumpy about retooling this team. The debate over whether it's Donovan or Rudy's team is over (at least/especially if it's the case that there is a level of rift under the surface that's not going to fully heal and may flare up), and most of the team's offensive talent are dudes that are an annual threat to fall of a cliff and whose contract statuses are or will soon be nigh.

So what is the possibility of trading Rudy to the Cavs for the #3 pick (if Evan Mobley is there, and whatever stuff has to be done to make it work)? I know Gobert can't technically be traded until October, but I don't know if that's simply a formality or not. I think Mobley pans out and would become a perfect big as he develops (though he might have some rough times in the first season or two at his weight and if he doesn't have a perfect front court mate alongside him). The Cavs might do that because they are jumpy about fielding a respectable team again (which is enough to make the playoffs in that joke of a conference).

Would the Jazz do that? Should the Jazz do that? Would the Cavs consider it (again, assuming Mobley is there at #3)?

If we can find a way to do it, I’d keep the Mitchell, Gobert, Conley, O’Neale, Clarkson, and Ingles core and try one more year. I’d literally jettison the entire rest of the team (save Azubuike) and replace them with vets and new guys (draft pick/UFAs). I’d try to find a trade for Bogey that brings us back some perimeter defense.

Guys like Aminu, Batum, Harkless, etc. would be my targets. Any good college players in the 6’5 to 6’8 range that can defend would be my draft targets/UFAs.

I think we owe it to vets like Conley (if he wants to be here) Ingles, and Gobert to give it one more go with a retooled supporting cast with at least a couple dudes that can guard at least a chair on the perimeter.

If we fail again next year, it’s time to blow it up. I’d guess Mitchell will request a trade next offseasons if we don’t at least get to the conference finals next year.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Rudy can’t be moved until October because he signed his extension. Any Rudy trade would be mid season or next offseason.

Could a team just functionally jump that and wait to sign the paperwork? Maybe there isn't an easy to find answer there.

 

[LoPo]

Could a team just functionally jump that and wait to sign the paperwork? Maybe there isn't an easy to find answer there.

There have been October trades before. Sometimes, that's a good way to find a desperate team that struck out in free agency.

I'm staring right at Charlotte. If they don't get a good player in free agency or via a trade, I could see them making a play for Rudy if we make him available. I mean, why not for them? They have guys locked in on rookie deals for a few years. Rudy makes them a legit playoff team right away.

If we can't dump Favors and Doke looks solid in the off-season, then maybe pull the trigger.

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[Bodhi]

Yeah, I didn't mean for my salty tone to take away from what appeared to be some real positives, I, again, am just not sure what question he's answering here. But there are some positives for sure, and would theoretically provide some abilities that the Jazz don't really have (though again, might be more of a luxury than a necessity, assuming the roster doesn't change, that is...).

Oh no worries, and I’m not this dudes cheerleader at all. I found out he existed like 4 hours ago.

I guess looking for the bright side if they are going to work him out and was pretty impressed by some high bball IQ stuff.

Now back to me also wanting only long, hyper athletic wings….