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infection said:
If Milke wants LA, get NOP involved and send out Favors. Send Kuzma to NOP. Get back Lonzo. Give Boler’s job to LaVar. I’m sure even @FAILED STATE would get behind that.
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The issue is still the apron… we likely can’t take a guy that has been signed and traded without dumping at least Favs and likely one more guy.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The issue is still the apron… we likely can’t take a guy that has been signed and traded without dumping at least Favs and likely one more guy.
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Favors goes to NOP and we do that cap magic that only the pros know about and the message board fans couldn’t even begin to comprehend.
 
infection said:
Favors goes to NOP and we do that cap magic that only the pros know about and the message board fans couldn’t even begin to comprehend.
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you'd need to flip JC or Bojan into someone's space still. Likely need to clear another $6Mish to be safe.
 
If you do the Ball deal you then are essentially done as you won't be able to use the taxpayer MLE without going over the apron.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
you'd need to flip JC or Bojan into someone's space still. Likely need to clear another $6Mish to be safe.
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Nah. It’s one of those moves where you wave your hands over it and say some magic words and it works out. Look, these guys get paid a lot of money to bend the laws of physics here. We wouldn’t understand it. But they do.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If you do the Ball deal you then are essentially done as you won't be able to use the taxpayer MLE without going over the apron.
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By itself, yes. I would assume many deals would be made if we took this path.

The hard cap is $140.6 million.
Rudy $35.3
Don $28.1
Bojan $18.7
Lonzo ~$18
Joe $13.1
Clarkson $12.4
Royce $8.8
Udoka $2.1
Oni $1.8
#30 $1.6
Hughes $1.5

11 PLAYER TOTAL - $141.4

Taxpayer MLE - $5.89
Biannual Exception (BAE) - $3.73
Minimum Contracts:
- with NBA Experience Player ~$2 million
- without NBA Experience Player ~$1 million

We are a Bojan for a smaller contract or JC for a smaller contract away from where we need to be.

This is why a Bojan for Kuzma deal makes so much sense. It literally saves us almost $6 million (depending on what Gasol and Harrell do) which opens the door of a possibility of S&T deals.

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LoPo said:
By itself, yes. I would assume many deals would be made if we took this path.

The hard cap is $140.6 million.
Rudy $35.3
Don $28.1
Bojan $18.7
Lonzo ~$18
Joe $13.1
Clarkson $12.4
Royce $8.8
Udoka $2.1
Oni $1.8
#30 $1.6
Hughes $1.5

11 PLAYER TOTAL - $141.4

Taxpayer MLE - $5.89
Biannual Exception (BAE) - $3.73
Minimum Contracts:
- with NBA Experience Player ~$2 million
- without NBA Experience Player ~$1 million

We are a Bojan for a smaller contract or JC for a smaller contract away from where we need to be.

This is why a Bojan for Kuzma deal makes so much sense. It literally saves us almost $6 million (depending on what Gasol and Harrell do) which opens the door of a possibility of S&T deals.

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I just think the cap gymnastics are difficult here... we are the team that couldn't figure out enough gymnastics to avoid the tax this year... when we were a couple million away. I know DL is gone but JZ doesn't strike me as a cap wizard (he came from Milwaukee who had a comical cap screw up this offseason). Maybe we have a capologist on staff that everyone just ignores... it sure seems like we don't quite have that **** figured out.

You could do a mike sign and trade for Kuzma and then do Bojan for Lonzo and you are probably close to being where you need to be... assuming you found a home for Favs without returning salary. The hard cap is just so restrictive. Can't even swap out minimum guys... and in the end you did a bunch of gymnastics to strap yourself to Lonzo (who I think is good but not incredible) and Kuzma who is okay and people think he will morph and be more awesome. I think the defense gets marginally better and the offense gets quite a bit worse
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I just think the cap gymnastics are difficult here... we are the team that couldn't figure out enough gymnastics to avoid the tax this year... when we were a couple million away. I know DL is gone but JZ doesn't strike me as a cap wizard (he came from Milwaukee who had a comical cap screw up this offseason). Maybe we have a capologist on staff that everyone just ignores... it sure seems like we don't quite have that **** figured out.

You could do a mike sign and trade for Kuzma and then do Bojan for Lonzo and you are probably close to being where you need to be... assuming you found a home for Favs without returning salary. The hard cap is just so restrictive. Can't even swap out minimum guys... and in the end you did a bunch of gymnastics to strap yourself to Lonzo (who I think is good but not incredible) and Kuzma who is okay and people think he will morph and be more awesome. I think the defense gets marginally better and the offense gets quite a bit worse
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I guess I'm looking at a lot of these deals as - what do we do if Conley just wants to leave?

If he does, we have to be desperate to find a PG who can defend while also being able to get Rudy good looks. Lonzo and Brogdon fit the bill.

It won't be easy, but we could do it. Maybe we lose #30 in the process. But if we end up with Kuzma and Lonzo instead of Favors and Bojan (because Mike just left), we had a brilliant off-season.

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