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Dang that’s a lot of money. What sucks is moving him will most likely cost us an asset. And we’re in need of assets to win a title. Or at least get to the WCFs.
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Favs Deal Must Be Moved
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LoPo
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There's a way to avoid the luxury all together but nobody is really talking about it. If Mike decides to leave, then we could just trade Rudy to Charlotte into their abundant cap space for a load of future picks and young prospects.
We could have space for a max contract next summer if Joe leaves. We would have big expirings of Bojan and Favors to use with Charlotte draft picks.
We could put a big three together next summer.
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We could have space for a max contract next summer if Joe leaves. We would have big expirings of Bojan and Favors to use with Charlotte draft picks.
We could put a big three together next summer.
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Ineptimusprime
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Teams with cap space that might give us a draft pick to take Ingles or Bogey into it? Who are they, and why do they do the deal?
I’m interested in tax saving moves that net us an asset, not require us to give up an asset.
I’m interested in tax saving moves that net us an asset, not require us to give up an asset.
latin jazz
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We go full rebuild in other words. Not sure we make the playoffs without Mike, Joe, Rudy, Bogie in exchange of assests (or players from Charlotte) and whoever we sign with cap space.
1. Ingles isn’t getting traded. He just isn’t.
2. I’m interested in getting two assets while only giving up one as well. But teams letting us use their asset (cap space) doesn’t usually yield another asset.
On a related note: while the Pacers are interested in moving #13 to get a proven “difference maker”, I looked at their books and I don’t see how the Jazz can offload just Bogey AND receive #13. The Pacers have no bad salary and are over the cap so I guess I should put that hope to bed.
You gotta be more specific with what assets are returning, and who in 2022 will be available and remotely likely to sign here.
The possibility of trading Gobert into space before July 1 next year is virtually 0 since a team would have to sit on their cap space until October to do the Gobert deal. I have hung some hope on a similar scenario with Cleveland (but for a real asset [#3] not a poo-poo platter of middling assets) but it’s the longest of shots.
Mongoose
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Wouldn't it be ironic if Charlotte won a title with Rudy and Gordo?
416Klawzz
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That's a DL speciality
This isnt actually a terrilbe idea (unlike my decision to wear a mankini to a work function.)
I would say this new ownership seem to be bullish and may pay the tax, we could actually get a real asset for favs.
Ineptimusprime
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I don’t think Charlotte does that deal, but I would. Jalen McDaniels is likely to be better than anyone we draft at 30 and fills a need, and we get off Fav’s contract and get a second rounder. We win that trade.
Charlotte would really have to love someone left at 30 to do that deal.
LoPo
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All based on Mike leaving so we pivot to avoid the luxury and build for the future. So...
Rudy
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A combination of Rozier, Miles Bridges, PJ Washington, and a boatload of picks
That saves us anywhere from $25 million to $5 million.
-Rozier and PJ saves $10 million.
-Or Bridges and PJ instead which saves about $23 million.
-Or we could take all three, and we still save around $5 million.
Then try to get Lonzo Ball or John Collins using picks and Bojan.
If we can't, we still try to work trades and/or signings.
2021 Lineup (assuming Rozier/PJ trade and no Lonzo/Collins):
Don $28.1
Bojan $18.7
Rozier $17.9
Joe $13.1
Clarkson $12.4
Favors $9.7
Full MLE Player $9.5
Royce $8.8
Washington $4.2
Udoka $2.1
Oni $1.8
#30 $1.6
Hughes $1.5
12 Players - $120 million
Luxury tax is $136
Sign a full MLE player ($9.5)
We avoid the luxury comfortably.
Our cap situation heading into 2022:
Don $30.3
Bojan $19.5 expiring
Clarkson $13.3
Favors $10 expiring
Full MLE from 2021 - $9.7
Royce $9.3
PJ Washington $5.8
Doke $2.2
#30 $1.8
Rozier contract expired
Joe contract expired
That's only $101 million of contracts and $30 of it is expiring Bojan and Favors.
We could trade picks and Bojan/Favors for a good player.
Then sign a max contract player.
Boom - Big 3. We still have Clarkson and Royce too.
And hopefully PJ, Doke, and #30 have developed.
Maybe we can find a way to keep Rozier too, or we could S&T him for more value.
2021 would be a fight to make the playoffs, but I think we could do it. From there we could have a brighter future than we do right now.
Right, I'm not even expecting him to pay it. But if he does it has zero impact on my life and I don't know why people get concerned about a billionaire spending some change. I don't know how, but for some reason fans share the "pain" of owners paying luxury tax. I understand being skeptical of their willingness to pay, I don't understand why you feel that burden if they do pay.