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LoPo said:
I don't know if it's funny or sad that you have to make what you believe are insults that are supposed to help in your void of valid arguments.

And Alabama is a beautiful place with great people. Ignorance is so ugly.
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ok Mr. Roy Moore.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
This **** is too funny lmfao. The reality is that we can both frame these things how we want. The Bojan/Favors thing is the best example. Your framing it as Rudy needing space, but we could easily frame it as Donovan needing space. The addition helped both players, but I would argue it helped the offensive more (which is more tilted in Donovan's favor, ie it makes him look better). I think both arguments are technically right, but mine is more right.

This is not arguable though: The Jazz put way more effort/attention/money into their offense this year and basically told Gobert you got this defense thing on your own. At the end of the day the offense is going to be attributed to Mitchell more than it is Gobert and the defense to Gobert more than it is Mitchell. Weakening the defense is not building around Gobert, as it tilts the team more towards Donovan's strengths.

And yes, Conley is there because of Mitchell. The team obviously has very little confidence in Mitchell as a full-time PG so they wanted a PG to help transition him more into that role. That's why they didnt sign a veteran backup PG. They wanted Mitchell to have those minutes and split backup PG duties with Ingles.

*Also trying to argue Favors addition is building around Gobert when they played almost zero minutes together is the goofiest **** you've done in a while*
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Team was completely built around Rudy during the Crowder/Rubio era. All defense, no offense. Problem was and still is that we over corrected back to the offensive side. If we had a more healthy mix of shooters and defenders we'd be hoisting the trophy this week.
 
So I was thinking run it back was going to be dumb but I think there is a chance the west is actually slightly worse next year... here is why:

-Clips - Kawhi might sit most of the year or all of it... there are also some serious rumblings he may bail on them. They also won't be able to keep everyone... they could make a trade to improve but I think they might be worse next year.

-Lakers - Unless they pull out some ******** move I think James and AD might have a worse supporting cast. Shroeder was good before the post-season/covid stuff. He isn't coming back. Kuzma seems unhappy and not sure they get a lot in trade. Their guys like Caruso and THT are gonna get paid hurting their maneuverability. They might actually get thinner and they were already thin.

-Denver - Probably a year in the middle as Murray likely isn't his normal self yet... maybe he gets back and is okay but they likely are a little thinner too.

-Suns - CP is a free agent... he's old... they had a deep run in the playoffs. They will need to extend Bridges/Ayton... Cam Payne is likely out. If CP stays does he wear these guys out.

Brooklyn is the boogie man... but if you get to the finals and face them healthy I am not sure there is a move that changes things for you.

I think essentially running it back is the best route. I trade Favs and I add in real rotation players to help depth... pray you do well in the draft or that Hughes or Doke give you something. All these other iterations where we re-arrange the deck chairs on the titanic just seem like worse options. Quin needs to have some weapons and be told to adjust and adapt and prep the players to do so. Coming in 1st in the regular season shouldn't be the goal. Getting a decent playoff path and preparing for multiple styles should be... especially in the first half of the season (so you can trade if you need to).
 
Just trade Don for Simmons and Thybulle, start Rudy, Favs, Royce, Thybulle and Simmons and usher in the new NBA era of ultimate defense. Win every game 80-75 with JC averaging 50 off the bench.
 
It seems pretty clear what the plan is at this point. Run it back with some more minor roster modifications, and this team is basically championship or bust next season. Lots of guys will be traded if they don't win a title. Then they're going to try and over the next 2 offseasons to change things and get it going in a direction where they hope to convince Mitchell to be comfortable with and to sign an extension. It will be difficult because without firm commitment from Mitchell that he's comfortable with that, there's no way you're willing to trade draft picks beyond the years you're confident he'll be here. You can't trade a 2025 or 2026 first round pick at this point because you may be terrible at that point. Smith has a lot of convincing to do. It'll be interesting to see who else he hires, what changes he makes, and what the next 2 years look like. I really don't know, but that seems to be there plan.
 
Waters would be a good pick up but I doubt we could offer him a bigger role than he had in Boston.

 
2021 offseason plan = undo 2020 offseason and now do what should have been done in 2020 offseason.

DL was such dumbass for not drafting Bane or McDaniels. Soooooo stupid.
 
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