Gyp Rosetti
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So in what way does that mean that "the final outcome wasn't known until several hours after the clock had expired"?
Utes 2011 Football Discussion
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So in what way does that mean that "the final outcome wasn't known until several hours after the clock had expired"?
SaltyDawg
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USC is not in first, see that big "X" next to their name? That isn't a #1, lol.
And yet if you follow your link, and click on the link to the "complete standings" it takes you to a page that shows you first the conference records, and then the overall records. It also lists UCLA above Arizona State, and still has USC in the standings. Utah is still fourth. There is not a 4 by their name because I believe ESPN expects the people that frequent their site to be able to count.
So again, the Conference record trumps the overall record if you are talking about CONFERENCE STANDINGS!!! USC still counts, they have only been disallowed from playing post season games. It does not mean they cannot "win the division". You are so dense when you want to be.
https://espn.go.com/college-football/conferences/standings/_/id/9/pacific-12-conference
SaltyDawg
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Utah had covered the spread when the clock expired. Several hours later it was determined they had not covered the spread.
What does that have to do with standings or winning the game smart guy? Were we talking about gambling, or winning the game?
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
They changed the final score of the game hours after the game had ended? Yeah, okay. How does that change the outcome of the game again?
SaltyDawg
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It absolutely does mean they can't win the division. On the front page of the PAC 12 official website right now there is a story talking about the division races. USC is not mentioned. Utah, ASU, and UCLA are who they talk about.
SaltyDawg
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We're talking about the outcome of the game. The final score is absolutely the outcome. This was a big deal to gamblers.
Or we can go your way too and just talk about knowing who is going to win. In that case, we didn't know until after the final play. That's what I was talking about in the first place before your clock expiring = game determined posts.
So my original point stands, Utah lost that game on the final play, and won the BYU game long before the final play.
SaltyDawg
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Oh, did I say they changed the outcome of the game? You sure? Link?
I said Utah lost on the last play.
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
They lost when they joined the PAC-12. Their facade of success will slowly wither and you're homerism will with it. Either that or you'll go into full blown delusional spin mode if you haven't already.
SaltyDawg
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Right, and that's why they are still alive in the division race with only 2 weeks left in a major injury plagued season.
Just the facts.
I understand Spazz arguing about this, as he is the fan of a rival. You just come across as an ax-grinder, Hobo.
Besides, this conversation will be a lot more relevant after all the games have been played and the standings are final.