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Has it occurred to Republicans that every one of their ilk who die of COVID is a lost vote? Shouldn't they be trying to keep them alive?

Or maybe I'm just assuming that more Republicans are dying of COVID than Democrats.

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I say the same about abortion.

If people die... It's their choice. Freedom... A once great concept of this country. Also you do realize African Americans and Hispanics are more likely to not get vaccinated, right? Politicizing this and pointing your finger at Republican is pretty naive. A fear mongering tactic.
 
Joe Rogan: I’m not putting an unknown vaccine into my body!

Also Joe Rogan: I just took a ****tail of 17 unknown drugs into my body.
I know it puts me in the minority, but I'm all for it. If Joe Rogan wants to experiment with Ivermectin then I think it is great and I hope it works. My only caveat is that I hope all the data is collected, good outcome or bad, so that our knowledge base increases. I'm all for experimentation, and if a grown adult wants to subject his or her body to experimentation I believe they should be allowed. If the Moderna mRNA-1273 vaccine had been offered on that basis I know that millions would have taken it in early 2020 experimentally, including myself.

Maybe Joe taking Ivermectin will kill people. Maybe the FDA preventing people from taking the Moderna mRNA-1273 vaccine for 8 months killed people. I don't like the view that the government is always infallible and subservience to government always being in your best interests.
 
He's terrified of me and my common sense approach.
Your "common sense" approach is way too heavy on the former word and too light on the latter.

And no we don't. The results from our own government say they have no clue because China is not speaking.
When I look for people to explain the cause of a natural phenomenon, should I look to the scientists or the "common sense" approach of talking to the CIA? I'll go with the former.

They wouldn't be hiding this if it was not a lab leak in which Fauci covered up.
You do understand you're talking about China?

On the other hand, no animal that supposedly transmitted the virus exist...
I was unaware bats had died out.
 
So do posts need to be reported in order for rules to be enforced? What are the consequences if the posts get to remain on the board? I’m genuinely curious since I had no idea that there were rules against posting covid misinformation.
The posters go through the same warning system as anyone. I don't expect the posts to be deleted, but you can counter them without repeating them.
 
Your "common sense" approach is way too heavy on the former word and too light on the latter.


When I look for people to explain the cause of a natural phenomenon, should I look to the scientists or the "common sense" approach of talking to the CIA? I'll go with the former.


You do understand you're talking about China?


I was unaware bats had died out.
Waiting for your proof it was a bat.......

I really did miss your misinformation and inability to ever provide any evidence.
 
No, he left so they wouldn't be killed when we overstayed the agreement Trump signed. Do you have any evidence they are now dead?
Trump signed an agreement to be out may 1st. This has absolutely nothing to do with Trump.

Common Sense says these children are literally trapped behind enemy lines. True or false? No whataboutism, true or false.
 
Trump signed an agreement to be out may 1st. This has absolutely nothing to do with Trump.
Biden got an extension on that agreement to go to Aug 31. Do you think the evacuation would have gone better if we stuck the the May 1 deadline?
 
Biden got an extension on that agreement to go to Aug 31. Do you think the evacuation would have gone better if we stuck the the May 1 deadline?
How could it possibly get any worse? The timeframe doesn't matter, the complete ineptness of your stupid president to leave Americans and its allies behind not to mention surrender airbases and billions in weapons is the problem. Nobody was against us leaving, nobody.
 
Moved to covid19 thread.

Uh, okay. That has nothing to do with the fact that the teachers union for my kid's school district opposed it and that opposition is codified in the agreement struck between the union and the district.
It is unfortunate that some of the branches are ignoring the advice of the NEA and the AFT.

I read more than the summary. Find the margin of error on that 37% and you'll find what I said is 100% true.
You mean, the data from this table (which is the only place I saw with confidence intervals:
Characteristic​
No. (%) of schools​
No. of enrolled students​
No. of cases§​
Cases per 500 students enrolled (95% CI)​
RR¶ (95% CI)​
Total
169 (100)
91,893
566
3.08 (2.84–3.34)
Mask requirements for teachers and staff members¶¶​
Optional​
57 (33.7)​
29,881​
264​
4.42 (3.92–4.98)​
Ref​
Required​
110 (65.1)​
61,190​
298​
2.44 (2.17–2.73)​
0.63 (0.47–0.85)​
Mask requirements for students
Optional​
82 (48.5)​
42,761​
326​
3.81 (3.42–4.25)​
Ref​
Required​
87 (51.5)​
49,132​
240​
2.44 (2.15–2.77)​
0.79 (0.50–1.08)​

I see quite a distance between the highest values of the CI in the mask-required group and the lowest values of the CI in the non-masked group. I have no explanation for your inability to process numbers.

Also, 37% efficacy is garbage. Even the Chinese vaccines are better than that.
Masks aren't suppose to replace vaccines. Your comparison here is bordering on misinformation. Looking at the above, I see circa 150 kids who didn't get covid19 in the mask requirement schools. I'm pretty sure you're not OK with those kids getting not getting covid19.

Really? So, Ivermectin was shown in a peer reviewed study published by a prominent academic journal to reduce cell-associated viral RNA by 99.8 % in 24 hours IN A LABORATORY.
IN A PETRI DISH, AT LEVELS THAT WOULD POISON A HUMAN BEING. It has no effect at all in clinical trials.

So you think we should just use the lab results as all the information we need to declare it the best?
No, I think humans should receive the very best of care possible, and it's irresponsible to sacrifice human health for the sake of forming control groups. This goes for masking as well as vaccines.
 
Exactly. One with no good evidence behind it.


Except, I don't. I said, "We have a pretty good guess at the origin, but no certainty. I don't see how that changes our behavior or the efficiency of vaccines."
Evidence like extremely poor safety conditions at Wuhan? A level 2 security in which only eyeglasses were required? Wuhan studying rat to human covid transmission? The supposed origin(Wuhan Market)being literally less than a block away? Doctors supposedly getting sick?

Now let's hear your evidence that it randomly popped up out of absolutely nowhere.
 
Evidence like extremely poor safety conditions at Wuhan? A level 2 security in which only eyeglasses were required? Wuhan studying rat to human covid transmission? The supposed origin(Wuhan Market)being literally less than a block away? Doctors supposedly getting sick?
All of which is consistent with covid19 having a natural origin.

Now let's hear your evidence that it randomly popped up out of absolutely nowhere.
Just recently, SARS, MERS, Ebola, etc., were all from natural sources. Natural sources are the most common origin of these diseases, so you need good evidence to say that was not the case here.
 
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