What is Critical Race Theory?

[fishonjazz]

How do you say "I'm old" without saying "I'm old"?

I just simply say im old.

 

[Gameface]

I just simply say im old.

That's how the old people used to do it.

Classic!

 

[Deleted member 365]

I don’t know what it is but I’m gonna devote a year fear mongering about it because it helps my tribe politically.

 

[One Brow]

I do admire your immunity shield that prevents One Brow from attacking you over your definition of CRT.

His definition is highly over-simplified, and therefore no more accurate than other such simplifications. That said, it is certainly true that CRT says systemic racism exists, and I'm pretty sure @Safetydan already knew it was a simplification.

 

[One Brow]

And pronouns. It is 2021. Best to mind the pronouns.

I do believe in politeness. I also believe in understanding what prefixes like "anti-" mean.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

it is certainly true that CRT says systemic racism exists

If that is what CRT says, then CRT is in schools. You can argue that it is a simplified version but you cannot argue that it does not exist or is not taught because the existence of systemic racism is in school curriculums.

 

[One Brow]

If that is what CRT says, then CRT is in schools.

That like saying since quantum mechanics takes about light, and we teach about light in grade school, therefore we teach about quantum mechanics in grade school. It's such obviously poor logic.

You can argue that it is a simplified version but you cannot argue that it does not exist or is not taught because the existence of systemic racism is in school curriculums.

There are many, many different theories and approaches that demonstrate systemic racism. When you google "system racism", CRT doesn't appear in the first page of results.

You're just wrong. Once in a while you should be adult enough to admit it.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

That like saying since quantum mechanics takes about light, and we teach about light in grade school, therefore we teach about quantum mechanics in grade school. It's such obviously poor logic.

There are many, many different theories and approaches that demonstrate systemic racism. When you google "system racism", CRT doesn't appear in the first page of results.

You're just wrong.

You condemnations are misdirected. That isn't my definition of CRT that you are attacking, it is SafetyDan's.

My point is and always has been that CRT is fundamentally postmodern. It is 2+2=5. You can make 2+2 equal whatever you want if you play with what 2 is. SafetyDan gave his definition of 2, and by his definition 2+2 equals 5. Fine if that is the definition. I don't have a dog in the fight and don't care either way. I do find it funny that you agree with SafetyDan's definition of 2 then argue against 2 being defined that way so that it doesn't equal 5. Either way, you are not wrong because it is a postmodern theory and so what are the concepts of right and wrong anyway in the context of postmodernism? I'll stick with my opinion of the whole thing being a faux intellectual garbage pile.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

I'll just leave this 96 second long clip here:

 

[One Brow]

You condemnations are misdirected. That isn't my definition of CRT that you are attacking, it is SafetyDan's.

I was unaware you considered @Safetydan to be the ultimate possessor of truth.

My point is and always has been that CRT is fundamentally postmodern.

This is correct.

It is 2+2=5.

I saw an excellent Twitter thread on that one.

I do find it funny that you agree with SafetyDan's definition of 2

How did "highly over-simplified, and therefore no more accurate than other such simplifications" indicate to you that I agreed with the definition?

Either way, you are not wrong because it is a postmodern theory and so what are the concepts of right and wrong anyway in the context of postmodernism?

Among other things, Modernism is wrong in postmodernism. Thus, for example, Marxism (which is a Modernist philosophy) would be wrong.

Of course, since postmodernism is primarily a criticism of a Modernist way of explaining the world, as opposed to a way of actively explaining the world, it's not really the sort of think that creates objective concepts of right and wrong. Asking for that is like asking a movie critic to to designing a lighting effect for a movie.

I'll stick with my opinion of the whole thing being a faux intellectual garbage pile.

I have no doubt of that. In fact, I would be surprised if you did anything else. Just I'm sure that you're still convinced CRT involves "race essentialism" when you can't find a single passage that is 1) not banal ("people have different colored skin"), 2) essentialist (i.e., that is, based intrinsic as opposed to extrinsic properties), and 3) held by leading authors in Critical Race Theory, and when you tried, you found something best described as 'oppression essentialist'. I have no expectations you will change your opinions based on mere reality.

 

[One Brow]

I'll just leave this 96 second long clip here:

If it was as prevalent as that speaker said, no one would have to "keep looking".

 

[Al-O-Meter]

I was unaware you considered @Safetydan to be the ultimate possessor of truth.

I don't, but I do test even ideas that I disagree with. For instance, I don't think 2+2=5, but I read the twitter thread too and understand the line of thought even if I personally believe 2+2=4.