Rittenhouse

[Avery]

The rumor is, and this is purely rumor from a HIGHLY questionable source whom I do not trust, that jurors are concerned about the repercussions from antifa should they acquit Rittenhouse. If true, then it doesn't matter what they evidence shows. Jurors will be voting on the message they think should be sent. That isn't justice but it is in human nature.

You could probably also figure that if the opposite happens and they hit him up on a bunch of charges that the Proud Boys and similar groups will also throw a fit (not to mention a few government officials who will call it out).

I hope cooler heads will prevail and that we could just accept the jurors decision without the need to retaliate, but I don't expect that etiquette.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

You could probably also figure that if the opposite happens and they hit him up on a bunch of charges that the Proud Boys and similar groups will also throw a fit

You could, but that would require an example of the Proud Boys ever doing such a thing. As far as I know, the Proud Boys mostly just beat on ANTIFA. They don't seem to be a 'loot, smash, and burn down the city to show how much we care' type of group.

 

[One Brow]

You could, but that would require an example of the Proud Boys ever doing such a thing. As far as I know, the Proud Boys mostly just beat on ANTIFA. They don't seem to be a 'loot, smash, and burn down the city to show how much we care' type of group.

Pride & Prejudice: The Violent Evolution of the Proud Boys – Combating Terrorism Center at West Point

Abstract: The Proud Boys have emerged as both a manifestation of and driver for polarization and political violence in the United States since their inception in 2016. Characterized by their use of political violence in defense of what they perceive to be Western values and society, the...

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The reason antifa became a thing at left-wing rallies is due to the efforts of right-wing groups like the Proud Boys.

 

[Gameface]

You could, but that would require an example of the Proud Boys ever doing such a thing. As far as I know, the Proud Boys mostly just beat on ANTIFA. They don't seem to be a 'loot, smash, and burn down the city to show how much we care' type of group.

So the Proud Boys are pretty okay in your estimation?

 

[Al-O-Meter]

So the Proud Boys are pretty okay in your estimation?

I don't know that much about them but in a YouTube video of a battle between those smashing, looting, and burning versus those beating on the smashers, looters, and burners, I'm likely to pull for the latter. Beyond my short attention span while watching a video, it isn't anything that resonates with me.

I do find it interesting that even in ANTIFA-crazy Portland, the city council unanimously voted to massively boost the police budget to get ANTIFA under control. Apparently ANTIFA smashing up the Mayor's apartment was enough to change his mind on the whole 'de-fund the police' idiocy.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

An NBC News producer has been arrested for trying to photograph and dox members of the Rittenhouse jury. All NBC News and MSNBC personnel have been barred from the courthouse property. A spokesman for NBC News said "We regret the incident and will fully cooperate with the authorities on any investigation."

Kyle Rittenhouse jury concludes third day of deliberations without verdict | CNN

The jury in Kyle Rittenhouse's homicide trial concluded its third day of deliberations Thursday without a verdict in a day that featured the judge's decision to ban MSNBC from the courtroom for allegedly following a jury bus.

www.cnn.com

 

[Gameface]

An NBC News producer has been arrested for trying to photograph and dox members of the Rittenhouse jury. All NBC News and MSNBC personnel have been barred from the courthouse property. A spokesman for NBC News said "We regret the incident and will fully cooperate with the authorities on any investigation."

Kyle Rittenhouse jury concludes third day of deliberations without verdict | CNN

The jury in Kyle Rittenhouse's homicide trial concluded its third day of deliberations Thursday without a verdict in a day that featured the judge's decision to ban MSNBC from the courtroom for allegedly following a jury bus.

www.cnn.com

Pretty disgusting if true.

But commercially there couldn't have been much to gain from taking the footage, could there? It isn't like they would have been able to publish the photographs or provide specific identifying info.

Is the idea that this producer was going to go rogue and begin some clandestine mission to harm the jurors if they vote to acquit?

 

[One Brow]

An NBC News producer has been arrested for trying to photograph and dox members of the Rittenhouse jury.

Throw the book at them. Things are tense enough, the jury needs to do its work properly.

 

[Avery]

I don't know that much about them but in a YouTube video of a battle between those smashing, looting, and burning versus those beating on the smashers, looters, and burners, I'm likely to pull for the latter. Beyond my short attention span while watching a video, it isn't anything that resonates with me.

I do find it interesting that even in ANTIFA-crazy Portland, the city council unanimously voted to massively boost the police budget to get ANTIFA under control. Apparently ANTIFA smashing up the Mayor's apartment was enough to change his mind on the whole 'de-fund the police' idiocy.

I would root for neither. Antifa is largely based on just wanting to create anarchy and isn't even technically an organized group, just a bunch of idiots who like to break stuff and cause mayhem because they weren't hugged enough as children I guess.

Proud Boys are a hate group quite frankly - if you spout white nationalist nonsense, anti-Muslim, misogynistic towards women and a bit too fond of the whole 'Anglo-Saxon is King' mantra, than yeah, you can be classified as a terrorist organization.

 

[Safetydan]

Throw the book at them. Things are tense enough, the jury needs to do its work properly.

Absolute moron.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

For those who think Rittenhouse will be acquitted, the clues coming from the jury do not support that. Bellow is jury request #5. The phrase "Mr. Rittenhouse put down the fire extinguisher" was used by the Prosecution. The video and event mentioned is the one the Prosecution used to claim Rittenhouse had provoked the confrontation by pointing a gun at Joshua Ziminksi. The way the request is phrased indicates someone who is telling, not asking. It appears to professionals who do this sort of thing for a living that Karen is trying to build a presentation to convince other jurors and she isn't going to back down on believing Rittenhouse provoked this. If these experts are correct, the best Rittenhouse can hope for now is a hung jury.

 

[Gameface]

For those who think Rittenhouse will be acquitted, the clues coming from the jury do not support that. Bellow is jury request #5. The phrase "Mr. Rittenhouse put down the fire extinguisher" was used by the Prosecution. The video and event mentioned is the one the Prosecution used to claim Rittenhouse had provoked the confrontation by pointing a gun at Joshua Ziminksi. The way the request if phrased indicates someone who is telling, not asking. It appears to professionals who do this sort of thing for a living that Karen is trying to build a presentation to convince other jurors and she isn't going to back down on believing Rittenhouse provoked this. If these experts are correct, the best Rittenhouse can hope for now is a hung jury.

So hung jury then? Is that good or bad for Rittenhouse? Prosecution has been kind of poor and judge seems pro-defense. So it seems that mistrial is good for prosecution.