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Jazz plan to sign Danuel House

I hear people saying stuff like same level as Oni and yet if this is the House I remember, he's got tons of experience and was known for hitting big shots and making big plays. This seems like a step in the right direction to me; now if he can manage to stick around and actually get some minutes in Snyder's system, that's a different story.
 
Why not sign Jimmer! Hahaha he shoots and plays zero defense. Perfect fit.

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KqWIN said:
Quin’s track record of bringing guys up through the ranks is very good. Sometimes I wonder if people take a second to think about a bunch of the guys on our team and how they got to where they are. Don’t understand why he’s getting a rep for burying guys on the bench. Oh wait….it’s because every fan ever has wanted to ply the young guys more.

I’m sure someone will turn this into “NBA teams are never wrong blah blah blah xD”.
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I am on the same page. Even teams that are very good at development have hits and misses - like Oni. And every team seems to have young talent who dont get minutes that the fans are sure deserve more time. Happens every year with the Jazz. What has happened with Butler was very predictable given our current roster and demands for winning now.
Joe, Royce, Trent, and even Rudy have been developed very well by Quin. The better team you are, the more difficult it is to develop young talent because the shift moves to winning games right now. I am curious what organizations people hold up as doing a better job than Quin and the Jazz? I am sure there are some but how long is the list?
 
gomretat said:
I am on the same page. Even teams that are very good at development have hits and misses - like Oni. And every team seems to have young talent who dont get minutes that the fans are sure deserve more time. Happens every year with the Jazz. What has happened with Butler was very predictable given our current roster and demands for winning now.
Joe, Royce, Trent, and even Rudy have been developed very well by Quin. The better team you are, the more difficult it is to develop young talent because the shift moves to winning games right now. I am curious what organizations people hold up as doing a better job than Quin and the Jazz? I am sure there are some but how long is the list?
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Miami.
 
gomretat said:
I am on the same page. Even teams that are very good at development have hits and misses - like Oni. And every team seems to have young talent who dont get minutes that the fans are sure deserve more time. Happens every year with the Jazz. What has happened with Butler was very predictable given our current roster and demands for winning now.
Joe, Royce, Trent, and even Rudy have been developed very well by Quin. The better team you are, the more difficult it is to develop young talent because the shift moves to winning games right now. I am curious what organizations people hold up as doing a better job than Quin and the Jazz? I am sure there are some but how long is the list?
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You could put Miami and Toronto up there...but at the end of the day those teams had their Oni's, NWG's, and Brantley's all the same. I can't even track who's in the league these days with the influx of 100+ new players, but there's probably some guy who isn't get much playing on those teams that fans are complaining about. Whining about the guy at the end of the bench who doesn't get to play is as old as time and fans are always so certain that if they were running the show their favorite bench warmer would be a star.

Quin's track record of elevating unknown/young players is great and not every team is built to be developing fringe players. One the main reason the Jazz aren't the best situation for a fringe player is because we're stacked and we're stacked in large part because of our work on the fringes and players who have developed under Quin.
 
gomretat said:
I am on the same page. Even teams that are very good at development have hits and misses - like Oni. And every team seems to have young talent who dont get minutes that the fans are sure deserve more time. Happens every year with the Jazz. What has happened with Butler was very predictable given our current roster and demands for winning now.
Joe, Royce, Trent, and even Rudy have been developed very well by Quin. The better team you are, the more difficult it is to develop young talent because the shift moves to winning games right now. I am curious what organizations people hold up as doing a better job than Quin and the Jazz? I am sure there are some but how long is the list?
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The situation is somewhat different from the Jazz in this regard, but Memphis sure seems to stand out as getting lots good (winning) efforts from young players. Their roster is so chock-full of young guys that seem to deserve time that I can't help wondering if the Grizzlies might be open to moving older players like Brooks and Anderson for the right price.
 
The Jazz USED to be good at developing players. Quin was brought on as a player development coach. He DID develop.

But what has he done lately? Name the last fringe player who has really improved under his watch? 3+ years back.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
The Jazz USED to be good at developing players. Quin was brought on as a player development coach. He DID develop.

But what has he done lately? Name the last fringe player who has really improved under his watch? 3+ years back.
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Silly argument. Do you know what’s different now than 3+ years ago? Those guys he developed are filling his rotation. Even as a winning team with very few rotation spots open, Quin has developed players. Forrest has gotten better, Niang got better, Clarkson had a career year last season, before that Tony Bradley improved immensely over his time here.

There are zero coaches in the NBA who are going to bench Jordan Clarkson so they can put in an unknown late 2nd round or undrafted player. People got to realize that the reason a lot of the fringe guys don’t end up making is 1) because they probably weren’t good enough in the first place and 2) there was no realistic opportunity for them to play in the first place.
 
idiot said:
The situation is somewhat different from the Jazz in this regard, but Memphis sure seems to stand out as getting lots good (winning) efforts from young players. Their roster is so chock-full of young guys that seem to deserve time that I can't help wondering if the Grizzlies might be open to moving older players like Brooks and Anderson for the right price.
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MEM is a lot like UTA a few years ago. It’s a lot different when you’re a young team on the come up versus a team that’s trying to contend.

You’re right that MEM has a lot of young guys they wish could probably get time, but they won’t be able to because they’re starting to transition into a winning team.

They aren’t suddenly going to be bad at developing because they rather play Bane instead of their 14th guy minutes every night…just a different team with different priorities and less opportunities for unknowns.

MEM still has a long way to go and a bright future ahead of them, but I would argue that what the Jazz have done is more impressive because they did it with an absence of high draft picks.
 
homeytennis said:
I remember when Corbin was coach, the Jazz signed Kyle Weaver out of the GLeague and in one game he was the second leading scorer to Hayward and filled up the stat sheet with a lot of positive statistics and the next day was gone. I can't remember if DL or KOC was the GM then.
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Kyle Weaver 2010-11 Game Log | Basketball-Reference.com

Get Kyle Weaver's 2010-11 game by game stats along with wins and losses stats on Basketball-Reference.com
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He did play in 3 more games (getting 5 games on a single 10-day is pretty good timing), without repeating the 19 point performance from the 2nd game.
 
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