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Ineptimusprime

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Does anyone like this team anymore?

In my opinion, this team is so boring and played out. I honestly hope we lose in the first round so we can get off this boring predictable treadmill we are on with this failed build. I’ve been score watching since the ASB and honestly haven’t missed watching.

Sick of the drama, the whining, and the personality of the team. Blow it up.
 
Ineptimusprime said:
Does anyone like this team anymore?

In my opinion, this team is so boring and played out. I honestly hope we lose in the first round so we can get off this boring predictable treadmill we are on with this failed build. I’ve been score watching since the ASB and honestly haven’t missed watching.

Sick of the drama, the whining, and the personality of the team. Blow it up.
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I agree for the most part. Annoys the ever living **** out of me how we start every game by just throwing Donovan in the corner. We try so damn hard to make Quin's ideals run and make Conley work. It's just so damn boring. We run the offense with little success then get it to Don with about 4 seconds left on the clock.

After half of a quarter of this, we turn into green light central. Clarkson comes in and it's like watching an And1 game circa 2005.

I'm getting so tired of seeing Rudy complain all the time. Truly does get old. Likewise, I get tired of Conley, Royce and Donovan not complaining enough. They are passionate, but they gotta force the ref's hand some.

I just find the whole thing kind of boring. The playoffs are fun because Don is just that good when he's on. When he can't carry us, we go full boring again.

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It sucks pretty bad that the identity of this team is choking away games/series. It wasn't always this way, but it is now for sure. The losses like last night sting a little less since it's just expected now.

I still have blind optimism though. I still think this team is capable of doing something big. I'll cheer for the team as long as they wear the Jazz uniform. There have been great teams or players that we labeled as chokers until they weren't.

I'm definitely not looking forward to blowing things up. When I was watching the Blazers the other day I was reminded of how not fun it is to watch a team like that. I'll still hope for the miracle that we magically figure it out. Obviously I'm not expecting it.
 
LoPo said:
I agree for the most part. Annoys the ever living **** out of me how we start every game by just throwing Donovan in the corner. We try so damn hard to make Quin's ideals run and make Conley work. It's just so damn boring. We run the offense with little success then get it to Don with about 4 seconds left on the clock.

After half of a quarter of this, we turn into green light central. Clarkson comes in and it's like watching an And1 game circa 2005.

I'm getting so tired of seeing Rudy complain all the time. Truly does get old. Likewise, I get tired of Conley, Royce and Donovan not complaining enough. They are passionate, but they gotta force the ref's hand some.

I just find the whole thing kind of boring. The playoffs are fun because Don is just that good when he's on. When he can't carry us, we go full boring again.

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ideals is not the same as ideas, fyi
 
It’s not necessary about liking them or not, but rather are they built to win a championship. Winning cures likability.

And the answer is no. I don’t like the makeup of the team. We are too small yet have little small ball flexibility and too reliant on Rudy being in the lineup. It doesn’t help that our coaches are afraid to experiment.

We’ve unfortunately committed all-in to this approach through draft capital and contractual money which doesn’t get better next year.

If we suffer a first round or second round exit this year, I dare say that we either have to trade Rudy to get a more well-balanced approach or DM if we truly want to begin a full rebuild. We can’t just run it back yet again.

The clock is ticking and if we don’t do anything, in two years, it all goes boom anyway.
 
I’m ready to move on.

They’re pretty boring to watch tbh. Rarely do we see the blender and it’s pretty boring to just watch players Chuck up quick 3s and play bad defense.
 
Avery said:
It’s not necessary about liking them or not, but rather are they built to win a championship. Winning cures likability.

And the answer is no. I don’t like the makeup of the team. We are too small yet have little small ball flexibility and too reliant on Rudy being in the lineup. It doesn’t help that our coaches are afraid to experiment.

We’ve unfortunately committed all-in to this approach through draft capital and contractual money which doesn’t get better next year.

If we suffer a first round or second round exit this year, I dare say that we either have to trade Rudy to get a more well-balanced approach or DM if we truly want to begin a full rebuild. We can’t just run it back yet again.

The clock is ticking and if we don’t do anything, in two years, it all goes boom anyway.
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I would say I don’t like either. I don’t like the way the team is constructed and the personalities of most of the players are starting to wear on me too. Conley is a pro, Bogey is a pro. Literally every other key rotation player on the roster is varying degrees of “whiney bitch.”

There is zero championship DNA here. Probably won’t watch much until the Playoffs, and if we flame out in the first or second round I will tune out completely next year if there is any degree of running it back. This is entertainment, and for the most part it’s lost my interest.
 
I think we can still win. I believe my Death Star analogy is the most appropriate. We can definitely win and if we did have health and a good roll of the dice I wouldn't be totally shocked if we could make a WCF or finals run. The problem is that the range of possibility is large but our probabilities skew more heavily toward collapsing. The Death Star is great and blows up planets but it has fatal flaws that, at this point, everyone knows. If anyone talks about those (the mental components and coaching inflexibility and lack of adjustment, I'm not talking about 5-out), the typical responses evades those points entirely and responds with "lol it blows up planets." If someone says, "hey, let's work on shoring up and addressing this one fatal flaw," the cadre responds with "lol let's just go blow up some planets so you can understand how powerful this thing is. lol."

Over the summer I suggested our biggest acquisition would be a veteran coach as an assistant. Someone needs to point out the small, obvious things to Quin. And someone he would 1) listen to and someone who 2) is in a position to feel comfortable pointing it out. The roster construction has flaws and I've complained about FO mismanagement on that plenty. But we should be getting more out of this collective. Yes, this team struggles in the clutch and gives up leads, but it's not one player specifically. It's the collective. The performance of the collective is the responsibility of the coach. Frequent mental collapses and not holding any kind of composure time after time after time is only about 25% on the players and 75% on coaching. If that's not Quin's responsibility, what is? Quin can see us doing stupid things that cause us to give up leads, but he hasn't responded other than pretending the entirety of the sample size is an outlier and continuing to move forward, undeterred, in the same direction.
 
I will always love this team and be a fan but I hesitate to watch games knowing that our coach will f it up
 
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