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The next step: Don't educate children at all

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news.yahoo.com

Abbott says Texas could 'resurrect' SCOTUS case requiring states to educate all kids

The comments came after a leaked draft opinion from the U.S. Supreme Court revealed that a majority of justices were considering overturning Roe v. Wade.
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Here's a thought: track down all the employers hiring undocumented workers, fine them out the wazoo, and use that money to educate the undocumented children.
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But a majority of employers are most likely white…

In all seriousness, this has ALWAYS been the solution for illegal immigration. You could deport all undocumented workers today, build a Berlin Wall across the border, and they’d still be back tomorrow because of the demand for cheap labor. Target employers and explain to American consumers why they’ve seen significant costs in products and services and you’ve solved the issue. Of course, American consumers probably won’t like the higher costs but that’s another story… I mean we’re seeing right now in real time labor shortages due to years of low levels of immigration. Where’s that manly American worker willing to work for low wages and zero benefits?

It’s been my experience that the Americans that hate immigration and globalization the most are also the ones who enjoy cheap good and services the most. They’re just too dumb or stubborn to connect the dots in their heads. And seeing where our demographics are headed? If we want to be able to compete economically with the right’s new favorite enemy, China in this century we better embrace immigration. If nothing else for the economic net benefits (I also care about giving people better lives so I believe immigration should be made easier).
 
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It’s honestly wouldn’t be surprising to me to see this ruling overturned. The right has been pushing to privatize public education for years. Red states will be aided by the Republican SCOTUS to help educate some students while dumping others into the trash heap.
 
Whether public or private, education costs money. Someone is footing the bill somewhere whether it's states, feds, taxpayers, etc.
 
Avery said:
Whether public or private, education costs money. Someone is footing the bill somewhere whether it's states, feds, taxpayers, etc.
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Or prisons.

We can either pay to educate people now or pay for lost economic, social, and political opportunities later.

Want a stable democracy? Want to maintain a thriving economy? Want a equitable society? It all starts with education. Like most things we're seeing from the right today, it's all reactionary politics. It's all about maintaining a sense of grievance. It's about backlash against the cultural progress that has been made since WWII. They'll happily pay more for prisons rather than schools if it means maintaining the racial hierarchy.
 
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Avery said:
Whether public or private, education costs money. Someone is footing the bill somewhere whether it's states, feds, taxpayers, etc.
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Governments can't pay for anything without first taxing citizens, or borrowing (to be re-paid in the future by taxpayers). So, taxpayers are paying for all of it.

Let a lot more people in legally, simplify the process, and don't criminalize low-skilled workers from accepting employment that they agree to of their own free will, even if a bureaucrat in Washington thinks the pay is too low.
 
AlaskanAssassin said:
Governments can't pay for anything without first taxing citizens, or borrowing (to be re-paid in the future by taxpayers). So, taxpayers are paying for all of it.

Let a lot more people in legally, simplify the process, and
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Agreed.

AlaskanAssassin said:
don't criminalize low-skilled workers from accepting employment that they agree to of their own free will, even if a bureaucrat in Washington thinks the pay is too low.
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Agreed, with the proviso the workers should be able to organize and bargain as a group, to maintain equity with employers.
 
Avery said:
Whether public or private, education costs money. Someone is footing the bill somewhere whether it's states, feds, taxpayers, etc.
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The Thriller and I agree, which is why my proposed solution rests on billing the people who are hiring the parents of these children.
 
One Brow said:
The Thriller and I agree, which is why my proposed solution rests on billing the people who are hiring the parents of these children.
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I would agree with this.
 
One Brow said:
Agreed, with the proviso the workers should be able to organize and bargain as a group, to maintain equity with employers.
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Totally agree on that, provided they only need to join the organization (union) of their own free will, and the government doesn't grant any special priviliges to either the employer or organized group of employees.
 
AlaskanAssassin said:
Totally agree on that, provided they only need to join the organization (union) of their own free will, and the government doesn't grant any special priviliges to either the employer or organized group of employees.
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Are the workers going to be ALLOWED to join the unions of their own free will, free of undue pressure or coercion from either side? (Google Pinkerton's unions)
 
AlaskanAssassin said:
Totally agree on that, provided they only need to join the organization (union) of their own free will, and the government doesn't grant any special priviliges to either the employer or organized group of employees.
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With optional union membership, you get into the free rider problem, unless you think the union should be able to negotiate a limit on the wages of non-members as well, so that the cost of union membership is compensated.

I'm not sure what you mean by "special privileges". I'm in favor of practicality.
 
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