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The United States is NOT a democracy and never was

“We’re a republic, not a democracy” is nonsensical along the lines of, “A collie is a dog, not an animal.” The United States is both a republic and a democracy.
 
Red said:
Yes, I know, sorry, I should have specified that, just thought it was a clever and succinct way to put it.
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It is neither clever or succinct. There is a reason ancient Rome, with its emperors and where we get the term 'republic' from, is not considered a type of democracy. A republic is not a type of democracy but rather a distinct form of government. That article was written to make people dumber and to reaffirm their preheld wrong beliefs.

A constitutional republic isn't about minority rule. A constitutional republic is about constitutional rule. The argument that the United States is a democracy is a dishonest talking point being pushed by those who find the constitution to be a hindrance and want to tear down its structural checks on power. Long live the Constitution and down with ignorance!
 
Al-O-Meter said:
It is neither clever or succinct. There is a reason ancient Rome, with its emperors and where we get the term 'republic' from, is not considered a type of democracy. A republic is not a type of democracy but rather a distinct form of government. That article was written to make people dumber and to reaffirm their preheld wrong beliefs.

A constitutional republic isn't about minority rule. A constitutional republic is about constitutional rule. The argument that the United States is a democracy is a dishonest talking point being pushed by those who find the constitution to be a hindrance and want to tear down its structural checks on power. Long live the Constitution and down with ignorance!
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The Romans didn't vote for their representatives. So yeah, there was no democratic institution in place in their republic.

There is in ours. And we've been over that already.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
The argument that the United States is a democracy is a dishonest talking point being pushed by those who find the constitution to be a hindrance and want to tear down its structural checks on power.
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Who would that group be, how large are they, and what structural checks on power do you think they want to eliminate?
 
Gameface said:
The Romans didn't vote for their representatives. So yeah, there was no democratic institution in place in their republic.

There is in ours. And we've been over that already.
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The line used in the article is “A collie is a dog, not an animal.” All collies are dogs and all dogs are animals therefor all collies are animals with analogy trying to make the case that all United States of Americas are republics and all republics are democracies therefor the United States is a democracy. You are bright enough to see that ancient Rome was a republic and is not considered a democracy which makes that analogy not true to this situation. Other people not a bright as you don't see that and think it clever and succinct rather than purposely designed to misinform.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
It is neither clever or succinct. There is a reason ancient Rome, with its emperors and where we get the term 'republic' from, is not considered a type of democracy. A republic is not a type of democracy but rather a distinct form of government. That article was written to make people dumber and to reaffirm their preheld wrong beliefs.

A constitutional republic isn't about minority rule. A constitutional republic is about constitutional rule. The argument that the United States is a democracy is a dishonest talking point being pushed by those who find the constitution to be a hindrance and want to tear down its structural checks on power. Long live the Constitution and down with ignorance!
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As I mentioned to you in an earlier reply, whether this thread, or another, not sure, but I told you that I know when I participate in democracy in America. In fact, I’ve done so many times, and will likely do so again in November of 2022. So, I suggest you take your bs and blow it out your arse….
 
Red said:
As I mentioned to you in an earlier reply, whether this thread, or another, not sure, but I told you that I know when I participate in democracy in America. In fact, I’ve done so many times, and will likely do so again in November of 2022. So, I suggest you take your bs and blow it out your arse….
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This.


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Al-O-Meter said:
The line used in the article is “A collie is a dog, not an animal.” All collies are dogs and all dogs are animals therefor all collies are animals with analogy trying to make the case that all United States of Americas are republics and all republics are democracies therefor the United States is a democracy. You are bright enough to see that ancient Rome was a republic and is not considered a democracy which makes that analogy not true to this situation. Other people not a bright as you don't see that and think it clever and succinct rather than purposely designed to misinform.
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So your problem is with the analogy?

OK...

The United States has democratic processes all the way up to electing our federal representatives and our President. Before you go there, I understand that the electoral college is a check on democracy and we do not directly elect our President.
 
Gameface said:
So your problem is with the analogy?

OK...

The United States has democratic processes all the way up to electing our federal representatives and our President. Before you go there, I understand that the electoral college is a check on democracy and we do not directly elect our President.
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I agree 100% with everything you wrote here.
 
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