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Donovan Mitchell Would Not Start for Either Finals Team

This thread is kind of silly because if either team had Mitchell, their roster construction would look different. His scoring is good enough to be the best offensive player on a title team.
 
How surprised would you guys be if I told you since Donovan came in the league that the difference between Rudy and Donovan’s points per possession allowed when playing isolation defense in the playoffs was a difference of only 0.14?
 
Players isolate so rarely against Gobert that I can't help but wonder what people are watching sometimes when they bring up the myth that teams are getting Gobert out of the paint for the purpose of isolating against him on the perimeter.

If it was such a winning formula, you'd think the Mavs would have tried it more than literally two times per game. For some reason, they found it to be a better option to get Gobert out on the perimeter so that other players could win their matchup without any fear of getting filtered into Gobert.

When Gobert left the perimeter to help in order to prevent the easy layup, bam, kick out, wide open 3. You can blame Quin for a lot of this, but blaming Gobert is insane.
 
I will also say this in Mitchell's defense (no pun intended).

He's spent his entire career being taught to defend a certain way (running perimeter players off the 3 pt line, not worrying about getting blown by because Gobert's inside). Of course when teams get Gobert out of the paint it's not going to be so simple for him to suddenly diverge from what he's been doing his entire career.

He could be better sure, but asking him and other perimeter defenders to defend in a totally non-habitual way for them on the fly was always doomed to fail.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Beg him? Get on their hands and knees? You're creating a mythical version of Donovan that plays defense. He does not play defense.

They arent taking Wiggins out, a guy who D's up when the opposing team has Brown/Tatum out there. They already have to hide Steph to an extent, they arent going to be able to do that with Steph and Donovan. It's common sense. Donovan has no place in the NBA Finals.
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Lol. His strength entering the league was defense silly. We were all gushing about his defense the first time we saw him in a jazz uniform. In fact my fondest early memories of Donovan were of him shutting Jason Tatum down.
 
MT Steve said:
Players isolate so rarely against Gobert that I can't help but wonder what people are watching sometimes when they bring up the myth that teams are getting Gobert out of the paint for the purpose of isolating against him on the perimeter.

If it was such a winning formula, you'd think the Mavs would have tried it more than literally two times per game. For some reason, they found it to be a better option to get Gobert out on the perimeter so that other players could win their matchup without any fear of getting filtered into Gobert.

When Gobert left the perimeter to help in order to prevent the easy layup, bam, kick out, wide open 3. You can blame Quin for a lot of this, but blaming Gobert is insane.
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He was isolated more than Mitchell in the playoffs and a total of 20 more times than him since Donovan was drafted in the playoffs.
 
MT Steve said:
Players isolate so rarely against Gobert that I can't help but wonder what people are watching sometimes when they bring up the myth that teams are getting Gobert out of the paint for the purpose of isolating against him on the perimeter.

If it was such a winning formula, you'd think the Mavs would have tried it more than literally two times per game. For some reason, they found it to be a better option to get Gobert out on the perimeter so that other players could win their matchup without any fear of getting filtered into Gobert.

When Gobert left the perimeter to help in order to prevent the easy layup, bam, kick out, wide open 3. You can blame Quin for a lot of this, but blaming Gobert is insane.
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Kawhi went through something similar in the playoffs as well, it's crazy. They would camp the guy he is guarding in the corner and go 4 on 4. It was so effective that Spurs had better defensive numbers when Kawhi was off the floor and that was his DPOY years. The situation is not that unique.

Now, the guy in the corner was often the best player but they also had Tim Duncan to protect the rim. Quin didn't allow Gobert to get completely taken out of the equation like Kawhi but that meant the team had to execute rotations and we all know how that went.
 
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