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Its almost like you'd need to have an armed mob overwhelm the police and force their entry into parliament, threaten law makers with weapons for anything to change. As if something like that would happen.
I actually think the easiest way to effect some control is to make weapons manufactures and sellers accountable for the damage caused by their weapons. Not easy to do legally but probably easier than banning weapons outright. You know as a licensee I have a duty of care to my patrons and to the people within a foreseeable distance of my premises to ensure public safety. And im legally liable for that...
Its kinda interesting that in the most litigious country on earth nobody has successfully sued the arms industry.
U.S. tort laws generally protect manufacturers (not just gun makers) if their product is not defective, proper warnings are given and advertisements or instructions do not cause misuse.
Democrats had the idea a long time ago to bankrupt gun manufacturers with frivilous lawsuits, which led to legislation to prevent these types of suits.
Properly selling a legal product should not result in manufacturer liability in any instance. Be it cars, guns or anything else.
There is not one solution, but continuous background checks that require fingerprinting (not just one and done) that are tied to BOTH fed and state databases, restriction in ownership for people convicted of violent crime (misdemeanor or felony) until you can prove you can be a responsible gun owner and doing a better job to monitor mental health starting in schools, and truly enforce no bullying policies.
And we need to put people with mental health and drug addictions in treatment centers.
While mass shootings get publicity, they asre a sliver of all gun deaths. Suicide is #1, followed by homicides, of which drug related shootings are a very high %.
Meth and heroin cause a lot of issues, and there should be zero tolerance for it.
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A gun is 50x more likely to be used for a suicide than for protection.
- Suicides are 8x more likely to occur in a home with a handgun than homes without a handgun.
- Suicides are 8x more likely to occur in a home with a handgun than homes without a handgun.
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I disagree. You’re seeing changes in laws at the state level for better or worse. Even Florida has passed some gun control recently. Hundreds of lives may have been saved by this:
Florida's post-Parkland 'red flag' gun law has been used thousands of times
Florida is one of 19 states to have “red flag” gun laws on the books. Democrats want to expand it further.
www.wtsp.com
The inability to pass anything of significance nationally isn’t because of our culture. The public overwhelmingly supports the proposed bills passed/being discussed in the House. It’s the Senate filibuster that is preventing these bills from passing. The vast majority of Americans are actually in agreement here.
This isn’t a societal or cultural problem, it’s a procedural problem in the Senate. Make it so the majority can pass legislation (blow the filibuster) and suddenly a lot of much needed and popular legislation will be passed.
Now isn’t the time to become cynical or hopeless. Cmon. Our democracy can certainly work. Opinions can change. Americans have far more in common than a lot of us think. I’m very confident that we’ll see much needed Gun reform laws passed nationally. And if not nationally, then it’s time to get organized and pass them locally until we can pass them nationally.
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Just curious, how many of you who want to enact sensible gun control have actually contacted BOTH your Representative and two Senators in the past year about enacting gun control?
Here’s a template email.
time.com
It’ll take you 5-10 mins to send. You’ll probably spend at least 3x that waiting in the drive thru line at Chick fil a, In & Out, and JCWBs this week.
And here’s how you find out who your Representative and Senators are and will provide you with their contact information. Just plug in your address and their information will load in seconds:
If you haven’t contacted them since Buffalo or Uvalde, you probably should. They can’t read your minds. They don’t know what you want without you telling them. And for those of you cynical about making a difference, think about the last two years. Where did the CRT scare come from? How did school board meetings become overrun by crazed people worrying about books depicting two gay penguins? How did masking become the gateway drug to your elementary school teacher becoming a pedo? Citizens organizing can definitely make a difference. True, the above examples aren’t necessarily positive examples but they are examples of angry and organized citizens making a difference.
Here’s a template email.
How to Contact Your Elected Representative About Gun Control
‘Staying silent and privately grieving isn’t enough anymore'
It’ll take you 5-10 mins to send. You’ll probably spend at least 3x that waiting in the drive thru line at Chick fil a, In & Out, and JCWBs this week.
And here’s how you find out who your Representative and Senators are and will provide you with their contact information. Just plug in your address and their information will load in seconds:
Find Your Members in the U.S. Congress
Find your members of Congress by typing in your address on Congress.gov.
www.congress.gov
If you haven’t contacted them since Buffalo or Uvalde, you probably should. They can’t read your minds. They don’t know what you want without you telling them. And for those of you cynical about making a difference, think about the last two years. Where did the CRT scare come from? How did school board meetings become overrun by crazed people worrying about books depicting two gay penguins? How did masking become the gateway drug to your elementary school teacher becoming a pedo? Citizens organizing can definitely make a difference. True, the above examples aren’t necessarily positive examples but they are examples of angry and organized citizens making a difference.
I'm in Oregon. Both of my Senators and my representative are Dems, All 3 of them have spoken in favor of, or introduced legislation for, various gun control topics.Just curious, how many of you who want to enact sensible gun control have actually contacted BOTH your Representative and two Senators in the past year about enacting gun control?
Here’s a template email.
How to Contact Your Elected Representative About Gun Control
‘Staying silent and privately grieving isn’t enough anymore'
It’ll take you 5-10 mins to send. You’ll probably spend at least 3x that waiting in the drive thru line at Chick fil a, In & Out, and JCWBs this week.
And here’s how you find out who your Representative and Senators are and will provide you with their contact information. Just plug in your address and their information will load in seconds:
Find Your Members in the U.S. Congress
Find your members of Congress by typing in your address on Congress.gov.www.congress.gov
If you haven’t contacted them since Buffalo or Uvalde, you probably should. They can’t read your minds. They don’t know what you want without you telling them. And for those of you cynical about making a difference, think about the last two years. Where did the CRT scare come from? How did school board meetings become overrun by crazed people worrying about books depicting two gay penguins? How did masking become the gateway drug to your elementary school teacher becoming a pedo? Citizens organizing can definitely make a difference. True, the above examples aren’t necessarily positive examples but they are examples of angry and organized citizens making a difference.
They should make all high capacity firearms (think 30 round AR-15s) fall under the NFA (questions remain from Heller as to whether "common use" would disallow such a law).
Require a $200 fee with enhanced background check and registration. Have to get advanced permission to carry across state lines (can be renewed annually). The number of shooting crimes that involve NFA registered guns is close to zero.
This will increase funds for enforcement, and allow competitors to still use non-neutered magazines for competitions.
Also require that gun owners keep their guns locked up, with keys or codes secured. A large number of school shootings occurred with non-secured firearms.
Require a $200 fee with enhanced background check and registration. Have to get advanced permission to carry across state lines (can be renewed annually). The number of shooting crimes that involve NFA registered guns is close to zero.
This will increase funds for enforcement, and allow competitors to still use non-neutered magazines for competitions.
Also require that gun owners keep their guns locked up, with keys or codes secured. A large number of school shootings occurred with non-secured firearms.
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We need 1-2 more Democrats/Republicans in the senate to blow the filibuster and pass this much needed legislation.
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I definitely see some merit in many of these ideas.
I think one idea to look at would be Gun insurance. Want an AR15? That’s cool. Be prepared to pay a lot for its insurance. I really wouldn’t mind a Tesla. It even if I could afford one, I’m not sure I’d like to pay for its insurance. A friend of mine sold his Camry for a Tesla. Insurance went up by $1,000 bucks per 6 months.
I’d like to see the age increased to 21 to purchase rifles and body armor.